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Post #293,003
by Arkadiy
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9/16/07 1:56:53 AM
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New Good Saying
Do you want it to be the motto of your healthcare system?

I've just read the thread - I am at a loss for words. To think that a doctor would use patient's pain as a leverage to get him to alter his lifestyle... In any decent system, the patient should be explained the risks, and if he chooses to go on, it should be his right to go on.

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Post #293,010
by Another Scott
9/16/07 9:12:46 AM
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New It's from The Fools.
[link|http://www.thefools-band.com/FoolsMP3/lifesucks.mp3|Life Sucks] (.mp3 excerpt). [link|http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/lyrics2/nov_lifesucks.html|Lyrics]. It's a good party song. ;-)

In any decent system, the patient should be explained the risks, and if he chooses to go on, it should be his right to go on.


I disagree; but I'd be repeating myself to say much more.

Do note that the UK has recently [link|http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4709258.stm|banned smoking] in public enclosed places and private clubs. For medical reasons. In Scotland, where the ban was imposed last year, [link|http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=1451402007|heart attacks have dropped by 17%-20%]. It's not unreasonable to require that a surgery patient quit smoking before he gets a place in the queue. They're not refusing to treat his pain.

Cheers,
Scott.
     UK health care wont treat broken ankle - (boxley) - (37) - Sept. 14, 2007, 01:33:44 PM EDT
         That's just good clinical sense - (pwhysall) - (3) - Sept. 14, 2007, 01:57:11 PM EDT
             so give him a bed, chain him to it for 48hrs and fix his leg -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 14, 2007, 02:01:00 PM EDT
                 Or alternatively, he could just /stop smoking/ - (pwhysall) - Sept. 14, 2007, 02:03:11 PM EDT
             Possibly not even that nannyish... - (hnick) - Sept. 14, 2007, 02:03:49 PM EDT
         Seems reasonable to me - (Lily) - (30) - Sept. 14, 2007, 06:02:02 PM EDT
             Completely disagree - (bepatient) - (29) - Sept. 14, 2007, 06:07:56 PM EDT
                 Now you're being disagreeable. - (Lily) - (28) - Sept. 14, 2007, 06:28:07 PM EDT
                     I disagree - (jake123) - (2) - Sept. 14, 2007, 06:50:05 PM EDT
                         you are not allowed to be sensible, its SMOKING CIGGARETTES! -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 14, 2007, 06:57:14 PM EDT
                         Stopping smoking is basically part of the pre-op - (pwhysall) - Sept. 15, 2007, 02:19:23 AM EDT
                     Re: Now you're being disagreeable. - (bepatient) - (24) - Sept. 14, 2007, 08:53:52 PM EDT
                         Incorrect. - (pwhysall) - (17) - Sept. 15, 2007, 02:15:42 AM EDT
                             I see. - (bepatient) - (16) - Sept. 15, 2007, 12:16:49 PM EDT
                                 Inpatient nicotine detox? - (Lily) - (14) - Sept. 15, 2007, 01:17:09 PM EDT
                                     Why not - (bepatient) - (13) - Sept. 15, 2007, 08:51:47 PM EDT
                                         It's elective surgery. - (Another Scott) - (11) - Sept. 15, 2007, 08:55:55 PM EDT
                                             Oh bullsh*t - (crazy) - (10) - Sept. 15, 2007, 09:14:32 PM EDT
                                                 Disagree. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Sept. 15, 2007, 09:34:06 PM EDT
                                                     And WHO classified it as elective? - (crazy) - (8) - Sept. 15, 2007, 09:52:48 PM EDT
                                                         Come on now. - (Another Scott) - (7) - Sept. 15, 2007, 10:18:56 PM EDT
                                                             If you had enough pain - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 15, 2007, 10:21:39 PM EDT
                                                                 If I needed morphine every day... - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 15, 2007, 10:42:04 PM EDT
                                                                     "alleviate severe pain." - (crazy) - (3) - Sept. 15, 2007, 10:59:12 PM EDT
                                                                         "Life sucks, then you die". :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 15, 2007, 11:02:07 PM EDT
                                                                             Good Saying - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Sept. 16, 2007, 01:56:53 AM EDT
                                                                                 It's from The Fools. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 16, 2007, 09:12:46 AM EDT
                                                                 If I had that much pain... - (pwhysall) - Sept. 16, 2007, 08:14:58 AM EDT
                                         Because - (Lily) - Sept. 16, 2007, 12:04:08 PM EDT
                                 Nonsense. - (pwhysall) - Sept. 16, 2007, 08:13:11 AM EDT
                         Nuh-uh - (Lily) - (5) - Sept. 15, 2007, 10:40:04 AM EDT
                             Acquaintance of mine - (jbrabeck) - Sept. 15, 2007, 12:57:20 PM EDT
                             Nuh-uh back - (crazy) - (2) - Sept. 15, 2007, 04:36:21 PM EDT
                                 Dont you start - (Lily) - (1) - Sept. 15, 2007, 07:11:21 PM EDT
                                     you mean it would be faster to identify what didnt kill im? -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 15, 2007, 07:56:07 PM EDT
                             Asprin is dropped - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 15, 2007, 11:03:45 PM EDT
         Irony? Or maybe not... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 14, 2007, 08:38:08 PM EDT
             People also get addicted to it everyday, also. -NT - (folkert) - Sept. 14, 2007, 11:28:36 PM EDT

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