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Post #281,619
by Silverlock
4/12/07 8:10:50 PM
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New You lost me.
I have no idea what "mixing bills" refers to. Well, I have some ideas, but none that make any sense. Unless, hmm. You and box agree on so many things I mistook you for him. Still doesn't make sense.

What the hell did you just say?
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Post #281,661
by bepatient
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4/13/07 2:46:45 AM
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New Re: You lost me.
Box has some areas where he thinks the gov can be effective. Me on the other hand...
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #281,674
by Silverlock
4/13/07 6:08:25 AM
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New Please never take a gov job then.
We don't need another person in public service who doesn't believe in public service.
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Post #281,677
by imric
4/13/07 6:58:27 AM
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New But...
When I worked for the State,I found that many people in public service don't believe in public service...
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
Post #281,678
by Silverlock
4/13/07 7:07:37 AM
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New Cheeze Louise. That was my damned point.
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You can fire an at will employee for good cause or no cause, but not bad cause.
Post #281,709
by imric
4/13/07 12:12:51 PM
4/13/07 12:13:05 PM
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New Ya mean I GOTTA be adversarial? ROFL!
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
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Post #281,679
by bepatient
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4/13/07 7:37:17 AM
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New Thats how I plan to retire
Get a fed job. No work, consistent paycheck. Great benefits.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #281,810
by rcareaga
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4/14/07 3:26:13 PM
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New beep's facile take on the feds
Get a fed job. No work, consistent paycheck. Great benefits.

Back in the day I worked closely with a number of folks in the late U.S. Customs Service (1789-2003: then a subordinate agency of the Treasury Department; today a re-animated corpse staggering zombie-fashion beneath the benign oversight of the Department of Homeland Security), and was impressed—and surprised, because I had also bought into that notion (in fairness I was in my twenties)—by the professionalism of the (non-uniformed) arm I dealt with. These were people who not infrequently worked uncompensated weekends to keep up with their workloads, and whose conscientious attention to their duties was not merely unrewarded back in the early Reagan administration, but in some cases actually punished. They worked damned hard and did indeed receive both consistent (scarcely lavish) pay and great benefits (four weeks vacation PA after 3 years; five after 15 years), particularly by modern standards. And yes, there was the occasional deadwood, some clowns who would have been fired under a completely rational system. Since the system wasn't completely rational (firing deadwood involved, I gather, a lot of paperwork), Customs management took the easier course of routing the work around them. Those of us who dealt with the agency knew who to avoid.

But hey, beep, if that's your retirement plan, go crazy. For all I know, unqualified and no-work is the rule and not the exception elsewhere among the feds. But if you want to be certain, why not apply for a job at the White House right now?
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #281,811
by boxley
4/14/07 3:34:57 PM
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New ya gotta remember he lives in Joisey across from philly
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep

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Post #281,812
by bepatient
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4/14/07 4:25:11 PM
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New Washington ain't "the place to be"
and I'm sure there are diligent, hard workers on the Fed payroll just as much as I'm certain there are others that are less diligent. As to which group is the higher number...I believe my opinion is "duly noted".

Those in my family that are earning fed paychecks do actually work. Get alot more holidays than I do, though.

But as box so eloquently pointed out...I live in joisey...where it seems the only qualification necessary to earn close to 200k/yr is to be the gay lover of the governor. Being the brother of the mayor gets you no-bid 5million contracts. There are quite a few on the payroll 2 and 3 times, more dozens of no show employees.

My dream job.

Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #281,919
by rcareaga
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4/15/07 7:39:06 PM
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New joisy jobs
"state " does not equal "federal." Your conflation of the two does not astonish me, however.

cordially,
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #281,925
by bepatient
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4/15/07 8:39:57 PM
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New Its very much the same thing
I know many many many fed employees. As I said in my post. Some of them actually work.

Its seems you think I should make some distinction between local, state and fed workers...and by some leap think that fed workers are better than state or local?

Such a nice thing to have someone of faith. Faith that their tax dollars are hard at work supporting a diligent, hard working, ultra-efficient federal workforce.



Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #281,933
by rcareaga
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4/15/07 9:22:30 PM
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New Faith
Such a nice thing to have someone of faith. Faith that their tax dollars are hard at work supporting a diligent, hard working, ultra-efficient federal workforce.
I'll put the federal peons up against the perfumed princes of the private sector (Enron, anyone?) any day. And you, Bill? You work so very, very hard as against anyone on the public teat? Prove it.
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #281,934
by boxley
4/15/07 9:28:53 PM
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New sshh, you want us all to get in trouble?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep

reach me at [link|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #281,941
by bepatient
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4/15/07 10:27:54 PM
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New Well at least
Enron's IT dept didn't lose 5 million emails.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #281,943
by Andrew Grygus
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4/15/07 10:33:40 PM
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New 'Lose' is such a casual term . . .
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Post #281,945
by Another Scott
4/15/07 10:37:37 PM
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New I bet they would have loved to, but they didn't have time...
Post #281,955
by tuberculosis
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4/15/07 11:14:22 PM
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New So now your position is
that the government is more effective/competent than the private sector?


We posture as apostles of fair play, as good sportsmen, as professional knights-errant-- and we throw beer bottles at the umpire when he refuses to cheat for our side...We save the black-and-tan republics from their native [statesmen]--and flood them with "deserving" democrats of our own. We deafen the world with our whoops for liberty--and submit to laws that destroy our most sacred rights...We play policeman and Sunday-school superintendent to half of Christendom--and lynch a darky every two days in our own backyard.


H.L. Mencken, 1914
Post #281,964
by bepatient
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4/15/07 11:34:06 PM
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New Now I know you're on crack.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #282,043
by tuberculosis
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4/16/07 5:51:45 PM
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New I'm just interpreting your writing
Feel free to write differently. :-P


We posture as apostles of fair play, as good sportsmen, as professional knights-errant-- and we throw beer bottles at the umpire when he refuses to cheat for our side...We save the black-and-tan republics from their native [statesmen]--and flood them with "deserving" democrats of our own. We deafen the world with our whoops for liberty--and submit to laws that destroy our most sacred rights...We play policeman and Sunday-school superintendent to half of Christendom--and lynch a darky every two days in our own backyard.


H.L. Mencken, 1914
Post #282,065
by bepatient
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4/16/07 9:02:37 PM
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New That wouldn't be any fun at all!
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
Post #281,972
by pwhysall
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4/16/07 1:27:30 AM
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New Neither did the gubmint
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Post #281,973
by CRConrad
4/16/07 2:08:54 AM
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New But the RNC did; *White House* e-mails. WTFDYM,"conspiracy"?
Post #281,974
by Andrew Grygus
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4/16/07 3:08:41 AM
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New Yea, there's no conspiracy . . .
. . they did it all themselves without having to involve anyone else.
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     The new racist gotcha - (bepatient) - (80) - April 10, 2007, 10:51:52 AM EDT
         Ding, Ding! Equally hates everyone. -NT - (folkert) - (54) - April 10, 2007, 11:46:52 AM EDT
             Fire Imus -NT - (andread) - (53) - April 11, 2007, 02:32:46 PM EDT
                 No. Keep him. - (folkert) - (52) - April 11, 2007, 05:38:28 PM EDT
                     ever heard of a racist moron? -NT - (andread) - (51) - April 12, 2007, 09:49:31 AM EDT
                         Several - (bepatient) - (2) - April 12, 2007, 09:51:42 AM EDT
                             What TV shows do they have? -NT - (andread) - (1) - April 12, 2007, 11:23:03 AM EDT
                                 Imus was on one of their radio programs -NT - (bepatient) - April 12, 2007, 11:36:44 AM EDT
                         bigot!=racists, you got the moron right -NT - (boxley) - (42) - April 12, 2007, 11:18:49 AM EDT
                             Re: bigot!=racists, you got the moron right - (andread) - (41) - April 12, 2007, 11:22:26 AM EDT
                                 incorrect - (boxley) - (40) - April 12, 2007, 11:26:45 AM EDT
                                     Even so, I'd label him racist -NT - (andread) - (30) - April 12, 2007, 01:22:14 PM EDT
                                         on what basis? Ive never heard him declare folks inferior - (boxley) - (29) - April 12, 2007, 01:37:35 PM EDT
                                             Re: on what basis? Ive never heard him declare folks inferio - (andread) - (28) - April 12, 2007, 02:55:50 PM EDT
                                                 Dont listem to him, havnt in years - (boxley) - (27) - April 12, 2007, 02:43:48 PM EDT
                                                     Box trusting the gov to it's the job? - (Silverlock) - (26) - April 12, 2007, 07:28:36 PM EDT
                                                         Might be mixing bills -NT - (bepatient) - (24) - April 12, 2007, 07:53:12 PM EDT
                                                             You lost me. - (Silverlock) - (23) - April 12, 2007, 08:10:50 PM EDT
                                                                 Re: You lost me. - (bepatient) - (22) - April 13, 2007, 02:46:45 AM EDT
                                                                     Please never take a gov job then. - (Silverlock) - (21) - April 13, 2007, 06:08:25 AM EDT
                                                                         But... - (imric) - (2) - April 13, 2007, 06:58:27 AM EDT
                                                                             Cheeze Louise. That was my damned point. -NT - (Silverlock) - (1) - April 13, 2007, 07:07:37 AM EDT
                                                                                 Ya mean I GOTTA be adversarial? ROFL! -NT - (imric) - April 13, 2007, 12:13:05 PM EDT
                                                                         Thats how I plan to retire - (bepatient) - (17) - April 13, 2007, 07:37:17 AM EDT
                                                                             beep's facile take on the feds - (rcareaga) - (16) - April 14, 2007, 03:26:13 PM EDT
                                                                                 ya gotta remember he lives in Joisey across from philly -NT - (boxley) - April 14, 2007, 03:34:57 PM EDT
                                                                                 Washington ain't "the place to be" - (bepatient) - (14) - April 14, 2007, 04:25:11 PM EDT
                                                                                     joisy jobs - (rcareaga) - (13) - April 15, 2007, 07:39:06 PM EDT
                                                                                         Its very much the same thing - (bepatient) - (12) - April 15, 2007, 08:39:57 PM EDT
                                                                                             Faith - (rcareaga) - (11) - April 15, 2007, 09:22:30 PM EDT
                                                                                                 sshh, you want us all to get in trouble? -NT - (boxley) - April 15, 2007, 09:28:53 PM EDT
                                                                                                 Well at least - (bepatient) - (9) - April 15, 2007, 10:27:54 PM EDT
                                                                                                     'Lose' is such a casual term . . . -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - April 15, 2007, 10:33:40 PM EDT
                                                                                                     I bet they would have loved to, but they didn't have time... -NT - (Another Scott) - April 15, 2007, 10:37:37 PM EDT
                                                                                                     So now your position is - (tuberculosis) - (3) - April 15, 2007, 11:14:22 PM EDT
                                                                                                         Now I know you're on crack. -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - April 15, 2007, 11:34:06 PM EDT
                                                                                                             I'm just interpreting your writing - (tuberculosis) - (1) - April 16, 2007, 05:51:45 PM EDT
                                                                                                                 That wouldn't be any fun at all! -NT - (bepatient) - April 16, 2007, 09:02:37 PM EDT
                                                                                                     Neither did the gubmint - (pwhysall) - (2) - April 16, 2007, 01:27:30 AM EDT
                                                                                                         But the RNC did; *White House* e-mails. WTFDYM,"conspiracy"? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - April 16, 2007, 02:08:54 AM EDT
                                                                                                             Yea, there's no conspiracy . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - April 16, 2007, 03:08:41 AM EDT
                                                         FCC is an excellent govenment department - (boxley) - April 12, 2007, 08:22:30 PM EDT
                                     What's that, the BOxlish definition of the word? - (CRConrad) - (8) - April 13, 2007, 03:06:22 AM EDT
                                         second entry in an american dictionary - (boxley) - (7) - April 13, 2007, 11:22:30 AM EDT
                                             That's an or-ed list -- it says... - (CRConrad) - (6) - April 13, 2007, 12:45:36 PM EDT
                                                 caught your punctuation mistake - (lincoln) - (5) - April 14, 2007, 03:03:05 PM EDT
                                                     Sure you caught a mistake, lad - but not mine. HTH! - (CRConrad) - (4) - April 15, 2007, 04:59:30 AM EDT
                                                         Since your post was far away from his - (lincoln) - (3) - April 15, 2007, 04:55:35 PM EDT
                                                             Wow!! Box made a punctuation error? - (hnick) - (2) - April 15, 2007, 05:25:45 PM EDT
                                                                 I already did - (lincoln) - April 16, 2007, 03:01:49 PM EDT
                                                                 flattery will get you everywhere :-) -NT - (boxley) - April 16, 2007, 03:05:39 PM EDT
                         Have you listened to "Imus in the Morning", his show? - (folkert) - (3) - April 12, 2007, 01:38:07 PM EDT
                             The I-man is the original shock jock. - (bepatient) - (2) - April 12, 2007, 02:12:28 PM EDT
                                 Yeah. Now though... - (folkert) - (1) - April 12, 2007, 05:52:16 PM EDT
                                     You should've heard by now. All over but the shouting. -NT - (bepatient) - April 12, 2007, 07:53:52 PM EDT
                         There are no non-racists - (tuberculosis) - April 12, 2007, 03:41:10 PM EDT
         I saw some of that encounter - (tuberculosis) - April 10, 2007, 11:59:55 AM EDT
         why is he suspended for 2 weeks for saying it once - (boxley) - (12) - April 10, 2007, 12:13:32 PM EDT
             Even better... - (bepatient) - (1) - April 10, 2007, 02:24:43 PM EDT
                 As soon as Jesse gets syndicated, fire him. -NT - (Silverlock) - April 10, 2007, 02:47:41 PM EDT
             He wasn't suspended for the you people remark - (Seamus) - (9) - April 10, 2007, 06:42:43 PM EDT
                 No. But Sharpton knew better - (bepatient) - (8) - April 10, 2007, 08:52:12 PM EDT
                     NO, No, no... nonono. - (folkert) - April 11, 2007, 01:30:59 AM EDT
                     Sharpton knew better? What evidence do you have for that? - (Seamus) - (6) - April 11, 2007, 07:21:13 AM EDT
                         Don's a big boy. - (Another Scott) - (5) - April 11, 2007, 07:41:44 AM EDT
                             Wrong - (bepatient) - (4) - April 11, 2007, 08:14:23 AM EDT
                                 How do you know Sharpton would think that Imus means y'all - (Seamus) - (1) - April 11, 2007, 08:40:54 AM EDT
                                     Like I said - (bepatient) - April 11, 2007, 10:34:18 AM EDT
                                 Those words are used in Hip Hop for a reason. - (Another Scott) - (1) - April 11, 2007, 08:52:31 AM EDT
                                     I certainly do. - (bepatient) - April 11, 2007, 10:36:50 AM EDT
         Sharpton shows up on Hardball - (tuberculosis) - (7) - April 11, 2007, 04:45:13 AM EDT
             I talk to them all the time, no probs. Its an attitude thing -NT - (boxley) - April 11, 2007, 07:48:49 AM EDT
             Even better... - (bepatient) - (4) - April 11, 2007, 08:17:03 AM EDT
                 So it is OK for the pot and kettle - (tuberculosis) - (3) - April 11, 2007, 11:36:22 AM EDT
                     What? - (bepatient) - (2) - April 11, 2007, 01:42:02 PM EDT
                         It isn't always about you, you know - (tuberculosis) - (1) - April 11, 2007, 02:06:56 PM EDT
                             You posted that as a reply to me. - (bepatient) - April 11, 2007, 02:16:43 PM EDT
             Saw that. - (a6l6e6x) - April 11, 2007, 11:53:53 AM EDT
         "So of course Imus is dead" - (Silverlock) - (2) - April 11, 2007, 07:59:17 PM EDT
             Maybe he'll go to satellite radio - (lincoln) - (1) - April 12, 2007, 04:11:59 PM EDT
                 Assuming satellite radio survives, that is... -NT - (Another Scott) - April 12, 2007, 07:55:14 PM EDT

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