Post #281,532
4/12/07 11:26:45 AM
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incorrect
a racist is someone who beleives another race is genetically inferior. A bigot dislikes people of another race for their mannerisms customs and actions but recognises their equality in the human chain, Imus is a bigot, not a racist. The aryan brotherhood are racists. The black muslims are racists, both declare other races to be subhuman.
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Post #281,540
4/12/07 1:22:14 PM
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Even so, I'd label him racist
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Post #281,545
4/12/07 1:37:35 PM
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on what basis? Ive never heard him declare folks inferior
to whites. Did you hear something I didnt?
or are you claiming that the word racist has channged meaning over time. If so we need to find a new word for what racist means.
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Post #281,557
4/12/07 2:38:49 PM
4/12/07 2:55:50 PM
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Re: on what basis? Ive never heard him declare folks inferio
I can't believe he would attack blacks so often and hire a guy to handle
the 'nigger' jokes if he wasn't racist
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April 12, 2007, 02:55:50 PM EDT
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Post #281,559
4/12/07 2:43:48 PM
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Dont listem to him, havnt in years
so maybe he has changed. But until the FCC declares him over the line and fines the crap out of him, let the listening public decide.
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Post #281,606
4/12/07 7:28:36 PM
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Box trusting the gov to it's the job?
Snowballs in hell going on sale as we speak.
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Post #281,610
4/12/07 7:53:12 PM
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Might be mixing bills
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Post #281,619
4/12/07 8:10:50 PM
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You lost me.
I have no idea what "mixing bills" refers to. Well, I have some ideas, but none that make any sense. Unless, hmm. You and box agree on so many things I mistook you for him. Still doesn't make sense.
What the hell did you just say?
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Post #281,661
4/13/07 2:46:45 AM
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Re: You lost me.
Box has some areas where he thinks the gov can be effective. Me on the other hand...
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Post #281,674
4/13/07 6:08:25 AM
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Please never take a gov job then.
We don't need another person in public service who doesn't believe in public service.
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Post #281,677
4/13/07 6:58:27 AM
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But...
When I worked for the State,I found that many people in public service don't believe in public service...
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #281,678
4/13/07 7:07:37 AM
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Cheeze Louise. That was my damned point.
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Post #281,709
4/13/07 12:12:51 PM
4/13/07 12:13:05 PM
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Ya mean I GOTTA be adversarial? ROFL!
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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April 13, 2007, 12:13:05 PM EDT
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Post #281,679
4/13/07 7:37:17 AM
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Thats how I plan to retire
Get a fed job. No work, consistent paycheck. Great benefits.
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Post #281,810
4/14/07 3:26:13 PM
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beep's facile take on the feds
Get a fed job. No work, consistent paycheck. Great benefits.
Back in the day I worked closely with a number of folks in the late U.S. Customs Service (1789-2003: then a subordinate agency of the Treasury Department; today a re-animated corpse staggering zombie-fashion beneath the benign oversight of the Department of Homeland Security), and was impressed—and surprised, because I had also bought into that notion (in fairness I was in my twenties)—by the professionalism of the (non-uniformed) arm I dealt with. These were people who not infrequently worked uncompensated weekends to keep up with their workloads, and whose conscientious attention to their duties was not merely unrewarded back in the early Reagan administration, but in some cases actually punished. They worked damned hard and did indeed receive both consistent (scarcely lavish) pay and great benefits (four weeks vacation PA after 3 years; five after 15 years), particularly by modern standards. And yes, there was the occasional deadwood, some clowns who would have been fired under a completely rational system. Since the system wasn't completely rational (firing deadwood involved, I gather, a lot of paperwork), Customs management took the easier course of routing the work around them. Those of us who dealt with the agency knew who to avoid.
But hey, beep, if that's your retirement plan, go crazy. For all I know, unqualified and no-work is the rule and not the exception elsewhere among the feds. But if you want to be certain, why not apply for a job at the White House right now?
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #281,811
4/14/07 3:34:57 PM
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ya gotta remember he lives in Joisey across from philly
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Post #281,812
4/14/07 4:25:11 PM
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Washington ain't "the place to be"
and I'm sure there are diligent, hard workers on the Fed payroll just as much as I'm certain there are others that are less diligent. As to which group is the higher number...I believe my opinion is "duly noted".
Those in my family that are earning fed paychecks do actually work. Get alot more holidays than I do, though.
But as box so eloquently pointed out...I live in joisey...where it seems the only qualification necessary to earn close to 200k/yr is to be the gay lover of the governor. Being the brother of the mayor gets you no-bid 5million contracts. There are quite a few on the payroll 2 and 3 times, more dozens of no show employees.
My dream job.
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Post #281,919
4/15/07 7:39:06 PM
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joisy jobs
"state " does not equal "federal." Your conflation of the two does not astonish me, however.
cordially,
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Post #281,925
4/15/07 8:39:57 PM
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Its very much the same thing
I know many many many fed employees. As I said in my post. Some of them actually work.
Its seems you think I should make some distinction between local, state and fed workers...and by some leap think that fed workers are better than state or local?
Such a nice thing to have someone of faith. Faith that their tax dollars are hard at work supporting a diligent, hard working, ultra-efficient federal workforce.
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Post #281,933
4/15/07 9:22:30 PM
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Faith
Such a nice thing to have someone of faith. Faith that their tax dollars are hard at work supporting a diligent, hard working, ultra-efficient federal workforce. I'll put the federal peons up against the perfumed princes of the private sector (Enron, anyone?) any day. And you, Bill? You work so very, very hard as against anyone on the public teat? Prove it. Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #281,934
4/15/07 9:28:53 PM
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sshh, you want us all to get in trouble?
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Post #281,941
4/15/07 10:27:54 PM
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Well at least
Enron's IT dept didn't lose 5 million emails.
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Post #281,943
4/15/07 10:33:40 PM
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'Lose' is such a casual term . . .
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Post #281,945
4/15/07 10:37:37 PM
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I bet they would have loved to, but they didn't have time...
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Post #281,955
4/15/07 11:14:22 PM
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So now your position is
that the government is more effective/competent than the private sector?
We posture as apostles of fair play, as good sportsmen, as professional knights-errant-- and we throw beer bottles at the umpire when he refuses to cheat for our side...We save the black-and-tan republics from their native [statesmen]--and flood them with "deserving" democrats of our own. We deafen the world with our whoops for liberty--and submit to laws that destroy our most sacred rights...We play policeman and Sunday-school superintendent to half of Christendom--and lynch a darky every two days in our own backyard.
H.L. Mencken, 1914
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Post #281,964
4/15/07 11:34:06 PM
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Now I know you're on crack.
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Post #282,043
4/16/07 5:51:45 PM
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I'm just interpreting your writing
Feel free to write differently. :-P
We posture as apostles of fair play, as good sportsmen, as professional knights-errant-- and we throw beer bottles at the umpire when he refuses to cheat for our side...We save the black-and-tan republics from their native [statesmen]--and flood them with "deserving" democrats of our own. We deafen the world with our whoops for liberty--and submit to laws that destroy our most sacred rights...We play policeman and Sunday-school superintendent to half of Christendom--and lynch a darky every two days in our own backyard.
H.L. Mencken, 1914
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Post #282,065
4/16/07 9:02:37 PM
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That wouldn't be any fun at all!
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Post #281,972
4/16/07 1:27:30 AM
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Neither did the gubmint
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Post #281,973
4/16/07 2:08:54 AM
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But the RNC did; *White House* e-mails. WTFDYM,"conspiracy"?
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Post #281,974
4/16/07 3:08:41 AM
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Yea, there's no conspiracy . . .
. . they did it all themselves without having to involve anyone else.
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Post #281,622
4/12/07 8:22:30 PM
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FCC is an excellent govenment department
whiney afraid to do anything and saved me 200 bucks on a phone fee once :-)
thanx,
bill
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Post #281,665
4/13/07 3:06:22 AM
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What's that, the BOxlish definition of the word?
Never heard that one before; where'd you get it from?
([link|http://www.freedictionary.org/index.php?Query=Bigot&database=%2A&strategy=exact|Here are seven definitions], none of which quite matches yours.)
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Post #281,703
4/13/07 11:22:30 AM
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second entry in an american dictionary
[link|http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot|http://dictionary.re....com/browse/bigot]
thanx,
bill
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Post #281,715
4/13/07 12:45:36 PM
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That's an or-ed list -- it says...
...NOTHING about disliking people of another race, but only "for their mannerisms customs and actions". That list means "disliking people of another group OR disliking people of another religion OR disliking people of another race OR disliking people who espouse different political opinions"; i.e, using the third element of the list, it's totally equal to plain old racism.
The other option, if we define element four as equivalent to your "for their mannerisms customs and actions", says NOTHING ABOUT RACE -- an equal-opportunity political/"mannerisms customs and actions" bigot is supposed to dislike people who differ from himself on those criteria EVEN WHEN they are of the SAME RACE as himself.
Your "defintion" seems to be a muddling-up of at least two different separate concepts (i.e, possible meanings of the word "bigot"), and I don't think you're going to find it reflected in ANY regular dictionary.
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Post #281,801
4/14/07 3:03:05 PM
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caught your punctuation mistake
The correct wording is: "for their mannerisms, customs and actions".
You missed the required comma.
HTH!
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Post #281,850
4/15/07 4:59:30 AM
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Sure you caught a mistake, lad - but not mine. HTH!
That was a direct quote1 from post #281532. Take it up with the BOx, whydoncha.
1: That's what the "quotation marks" mean, you see. (To people who know their punctuation, that is.)
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Post #281,902
4/15/07 4:55:35 PM
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Since your post was far away from his
and not listed as a direct repsonse to that specific post, I could not see that you were quoting The Box.
You are correct: it's The Box's punctuation error, not yours.
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
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Post #281,908
4/15/07 5:25:45 PM
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Wow!! Box made a punctuation error?
Get away! Never! Really? Do tell...
Listen children, you're adolescents now, so act like adults...
Fuck, if Bill gets one word in ten approximately correct when in shitkicker mode, he's way ahead of his normal game. It usually means that he's drunker than usual or can't remember exactly where he's currently being a shitkicker from.
In the mean time, go play in traffic, the both of you...
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Post #282,021
4/16/07 3:01:49 PM
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I already did
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=280649|post #280649]
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
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Post #282,022
4/16/07 3:05:39 PM
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flattery will get you everywhere :-)
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