Height impaired?

You're talking about people who might *almost* be dwa--uh, Little People, but aren't.

OK, so any arbitrary height limit may be wrong in some cases: What you, Greg, are talking about is a "physical abnormity" (caused by hormones or hormone deficiencies and stuff); the girl Thane (and most of the rest of the gang) was talking about, OTOH, is apparently one of those "physically normal" people who just *happen* to be at the extreme lower end of the "normal" spectrum.

Witth that definition, I can well imagine that there are actually some dw^H^H Little People who are taller than some "normal" people. Weird, innit?

Anyway: I think the girl Thane was talking about would be just a "very little person", without capitals, as opposed to one of the capitalized "Little People".

Sorry Laura. From experience.

Hearing loss diminishes your ability - to hear (I wear hearing aids).
Eyesight loss diminishes your ability - to see (Reading glasses here).

But lack of height is NOT an impairment. Nothing is diminished except the self-esteem of the person who is not of "normal" height.

My ex was 4'10" and VERY sensitive to height "jokes", comments, and remarks. She passed on the gene to our daughters, and has stated, at times, that had she known that our daughters were going to be "short", she would not have had children. When we were divorced, her feelings on height were one of the reasons why I was given custody.

I'll repeat here from earlier post. I've worked very hard to give my daughters a very health self esteem. They are 4'7" and 4'8". Much shorter than the average. And classmates can be cruel. We worked on how to reply to jokes, inappropriate comments and remarks. How to educate the teachers so that they would be treated as an equal, not a toy (they were constantly picked up and carried by classmates, in fun), and that their lack of stature did not mean a lack of mental capacity (both are in the upper 2% on all standard testing). They are both now in college, where they are "on their own", and are doing very well.

Of course they ALWAYS pick the TALLEST person for friends.

Sorry for the rant, but you're talking about my family... :-)

Post #272,002 by bionerd 11/3/06 8:57:37 AM Reply	Height impaired?
Post #272,004 by pwhysall 11/3/06 9:16:25 AM Reply	"Impaired" implies a value judgement. You oppressor-matriarch, you. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #272,010 by folkert 11/3/06 9:58:28 AM Reply	Zenith Blighted? -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #272,011 by pwhysall 11/3/06 9:59:13 AM Reply	Value judgements again. Penis-wielding oppressor-matrix occupant. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #272,012 by folkert 11/3/06 10:03:17 AM Reply	No not really Zenith == The peak. Blight == An extremely adverse environmental condition. I don't see how [link\|http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/peter\|Peter]. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #272,014 by pwhysall 11/3/06 10:06:52 AM Reply	Midgets should be described as "bad weather on mountains"? Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #272,015 by folkert 11/3/06 10:09:25 AM Reply	Yeap. That way, no connotations about being diminutive or limited could be inferred. Bad weather, enduring it. Mountains, being huge in capacity or possibility. See how stupid this gets, the further you go. "Little People" is pretty much the preferred term, given that the group chose it. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #272,027 by CRConrad 11/3/06 10:37:30 AM Reply	But you aren't talking about that specific group. You're talking about people who might almost be dwa--uh, Little People, but aren't. OK, so any arbitrary height limit may be wrong in some cases: What you, Greg, are talking about is a "physical abnormity" (caused by hormones or hormone deficiencies and stuff); the girl Thane (and most of the rest of the gang) was talking about, OTOH, is apparently one of those "physically normal" people who just happen to be at the extreme lower end of the "normal" spectrum. Witth that definition, I can well imagine that there are actually some dw^H^H Little People who are taller than some "normal" people. Weird, innit? Anyway: I think the girl Thane was talking about would be just a "very little person", without capitals, as opposed to one of the capitalized "Little People". [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #272,071 by bionerd 11/3/06 2:13:58 PM Reply	Me? I'm the opposite of an oppressor What would that make me? A liberator? We have visually impaired. We have hearing impaired. Why cant we have height impaired?
Post #272,073 by ChrisR 11/3/06 2:21:16 PM Reply	Impresser?
Post #272,075 by bionerd 11/3/06 2:27:20 PM Reply	And who exactly would I be impressing? The height impaired? I am 5'6". Maybe they would be impressed by that.
Post #272,076 by ChrisR 11/3/06 2:29:29 PM Reply	5'6"" = Giant in munchkin land?
Post #272,104 by jbrabeck 11/3/06 5:18:01 PM Reply	Rebuttle Sorry Laura. From experience. Hearing loss diminishes your ability - to hear (I wear hearing aids). Eyesight loss diminishes your ability - to see (Reading glasses here). But lack of height is NOT an impairment. Nothing is diminished except the self-esteem of the person who is not of "normal" height. My ex was 4'10" and VERY sensitive to height "jokes", comments, and remarks. She passed on the gene to our daughters, and has stated, at times, that had she known that our daughters were going to be "short", she would not have had children. When we were divorced, her feelings on height were one of the reasons why I was given custody. I'll repeat here from earlier post. I've worked very hard to give my daughters a very health self esteem. They are 4'7" and 4'8". Much shorter than the average. And classmates can be cruel. We worked on how to reply to jokes, inappropriate comments and remarks. How to educate the teachers so that they would be treated as an equal, not a toy (they were constantly picked up and carried by classmates, in fun), and that their lack of stature did not mean a lack of mental capacity (both are in the upper 2% on all standard testing). They are both now in college, where they are "on their own", and are doing very well. Of course they ALWAYS pick the TALLEST person for friends. Sorry for the rant, but you're talking about my family... :-) A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)

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