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New "Impaired" implies a value judgement.
You oppressor-matriarch, you.


Peter
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New Zenith Blighted?
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New Value judgements again.
Penis-wielding oppressor-matrix occupant.


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New No not really
Zenith == The peak.
Blight == An extremely adverse environmental condition.

I don't see how [link|http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/peter|Peter].
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New Midgets should be described as "bad weather on mountains"?


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New Yeap.
That way, no connotations about being diminutive or limited could be inferred.

Bad weather, enduring it.

Mountains, being huge in capacity or possibility.



See how stupid this gets, the further you go. "Little People" is pretty much the preferred term, given that the group chose it.
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SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;

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New But you aren't talking about that specific group.
You're talking about people who might *almost* be dwa--uh, Little People, but aren't.

OK, so any arbitrary height limit may be wrong in some cases: What you, Greg, are talking about is a "physical abnormity" (caused by hormones or hormone deficiencies and stuff); the girl Thane (and most of the rest of the gang) was talking about, OTOH, is apparently one of those "physically normal" people who just *happen* to be at the extreme lower end of the "normal" spectrum.

Witth that definition, I can well imagine that there are actually some dw^H^H Little People who are taller than some "normal" people. Weird, innit?

Anyway: I think the girl Thane was talking about would be just a "very little person", without capitals, as opposed to one of the capitalized "Little People".


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New Me? I'm the opposite of an oppressor
What would that make me? A liberator?

We have visually impaired. We have hearing impaired. Why cant we have height impaired?

New Impresser?
New And who exactly would I be impressing?
The height impaired? I am 5'6". Maybe they would be impressed by that.
New 5'6"" = Giant in munchkin land?
New Rebuttle
Sorry Laura. From experience.

Hearing loss diminishes your ability - to hear (I wear hearing aids).
Eyesight loss diminishes your ability - to see (Reading glasses here).

But lack of height is NOT an impairment. Nothing is diminished except the self-esteem of the person who is not of "normal" height.

My ex was 4'10" and VERY sensitive to height "jokes", comments, and remarks. She passed on the gene to our daughters, and has stated, at times, that had she known that our daughters were going to be "short", she would not have had children. When we were divorced, her feelings on height were one of the reasons why I was given custody.

I'll repeat here from earlier post. I've worked very hard to give my daughters a very health self esteem. They are 4'7" and 4'8". Much shorter than the average. And classmates can be cruel. We worked on how to reply to jokes, inappropriate comments and remarks. How to educate the teachers so that they would be treated as an equal, not a toy (they were constantly picked up and carried by classmates, in fun), and that their lack of stature did not mean a lack of mental capacity (both are in the upper 2% on all standard testing). They are both now in college, where they are "on their own", and are doing very well.

Of course they ALWAYS pick the TALLEST person for friends.

Sorry for the rant, but you're talking about my family... :-)
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     Happy 35th Birthday, Thane! (inthane-chan) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (50)
         Happy Birthday, Thane! -NT - (Steve Lowe)
         Happy BirThaneDay! -NT - (Meerkat)
         Was trying for something like - (Ashton) - (2)
             Oh, come on now. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (imqwerky)
         Swinging! HBDD*. - (Silverlock)
         Make 35 a year to remember! - (bionerd)
         HBD! Enjoy it and your new toys! -NT - (Another Scott)
         Yupyup! Happy Birthday! -NT - (imric)
         Oh Happy Day! -NT - (bepatient)
         May there be many more... - (CRConrad)
         Hippo Hippo Bird day -NT - (jbrabeck)
         Thanks, all. - (inthane-chan) - (27)
             Sounds like a good time! - (admin) - (1)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
             You're dating a midget? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (24)
                 No, and no. - (inthane-chan) - (8)
                     Ok, so how short is short? - (jbrabeck) - (7)
                         About 4'10"-4'11". - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                             One word - (jbrabeck) - (5)
                                 Already aware. - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                                     You're a tall guy though - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                         Did once. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                             In San Francisco - (tuberculosis)
                                             Maybe you like cutie pies - (tonytib)
                 I think the PC term is little person -NT - (bionerd) - (14)
                     "Alternately Heighted" -NT - (pwhysall) - (13)
                         Height impaired? -NT - (bionerd) - (12)
                             "Impaired" implies a value judgement. - (pwhysall) - (11)
                                 Zenith Blighted? -NT - (folkert) - (5)
                                     Value judgements again. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                         No not really - (folkert) - (3)
                                             Midgets should be described as "bad weather on mountains"? -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                 Yeap. - (folkert) - (1)
                                                     But you aren't talking about that specific group. - (CRConrad)
                                 Me? I'm the opposite of an oppressor - (bionerd) - (4)
                                     Impresser? -NT - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                         And who exactly would I be impressing? - (bionerd) - (1)
                                             5'6"" = Giant in munchkin land? -NT - (ChrisR)
                                     Rebuttle - (jbrabeck)
         Have a great one, Thane :) - (imqwerky) - (3)
             That's still a lot better than having forty pushing you. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                 :-) -NT - (Steve Lowe)
                 40? - (jbrabeck)
         HBD... Do NOT wreck your new car celebrating... -NT - (hnick) - (3)
             Got back in one piece yesterday. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                 That's what your handbrake is for -NT - (tuberculosis)
                 I used to work with a guy ... - (drewk)
         So I'm late... - (jb4) - (1)
             Re: So I'm late... - (Nightowl)

Any more than we can resent a dog licking its own testicles.
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