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Post #264,106

by bepatient

8/7/06 3:26:03 PM

Thats what the other link was for

because that isn't supported by the data either.

Hell, if you eliminate the outliers (those obscene CEO numbers made by about 6 guys) and use just base CEO compensation..its only up about 3 and a half percent. Same as everyone else.

So again...your perception...the same as Box...is your reality. The data doesn't support it.

Add them back and you get things like the guy at Cap One that made almost 300million. 7 million salary and a quarter billion in stock options he had to sell or lose.

Is that ridiculous. Sure. But so is A-Rod making $1million per RBI and Howard Stern's deal with the sat radio folks.

Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}

Post #264,109

by imric

8/7/06 3:59:29 PM

No?

So - the people in the bottom 10% increased their savings by the same percentage as the people in the top 10%? A rising tide floats all boats, eh?

No?

So then at least the people in the bottom 10% didn't lose ground, right?

No?

I don't give a tinker's damn about trivial exceptions on either end - and you know it.

And - it ain't just my reality. It's the reality of a helluva lot of people. If more people are complaining than cheering - it probably isn't all sunshine and roses. You might want to take a look at the reports, and not just imply that those people are living in their own (incorrect) reality.

You might not like the the surprise when your bubble bursts and you end up in their shoes.

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Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Men dropping out of work force - (JayMehaffey) - (102) - July 31, 2006, 09:35:52 AM EDT

Of course it points that out - (bepatient) - (88) - July 31, 2006, 11:31:01 AM EDT

Exactly. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - July 31, 2006, 11:58:14 AM EDT

Ah, so its a GOD given right - (bepatient) - (5) - July 31, 2006, 12:09:10 PM EDT

Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Aug. 4, 2006, 09:50:37 PM EDT

Somehow I think you misinterpreted - (bepatient) - Aug. 4, 2006, 10:05:35 PM EDT

Oh, and another thing. - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 4, 2006, 10:18:51 PM EDT

You think people don't take pay cuts today? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2006, 07:50:32 PM EDT

You are confused - (bepatient) - Aug. 6, 2006, 08:56:45 PM EDT

Wow, almost perfectly opposite impression - (JayMehaffey) - (80) - July 31, 2006, 12:04:23 PM EDT

Huh? - (drewk) - July 31, 2006, 12:12:04 PM EDT

Timing of publication and the publication itself. - (bepatient) - (78) - July 31, 2006, 12:13:24 PM EDT

Ferchrissakes. - (mmoffitt) - (77) - Aug. 4, 2006, 09:55:06 PM EDT

Apologist for whom, exactly? - (bepatient) - (76) - Aug. 4, 2006, 10:10:19 PM EDT

lowest unemployment in years, I agree - (boxley) - (75) - Aug. 4, 2006, 10:17:58 PM EDT

Saw this a while back - (bepatient) - (74) - Aug. 4, 2006, 10:39:56 PM EDT

crock o sommat - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 4, 2006, 10:54:30 PM EDT

doesn't jibe with the figures - (bepatient) - Aug. 5, 2006, 01:54:00 AM EDT

It's the nature of averages... - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 5, 2006, 09:52:34 AM EDT

Same error both sides - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2006, 11:59:11 AM EDT

Both sides are correct - (broomberg) - Aug. 5, 2006, 05:44:54 PM EDT

possible nit - (boxley) - (68) - Aug. 6, 2006, 09:48:08 PM EDT

other places too - (bepatient) - (66) - Aug. 6, 2006, 11:05:49 PM EDT

P1ss on that. - (imric) - (65) - Aug. 6, 2006, 11:16:47 PM EDT

I can finger just as many - (bepatient) - (64) - Aug. 7, 2006, 12:29:16 AM EDT

100% - (imric) - (63) - Aug. 7, 2006, 07:18:24 AM EDT

Let's take a poll: Better or Worse Worse - (imqwerky) - (62) - Aug. 7, 2006, 07:33:35 AM EDT

Better. - (imric) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 09:24:40 AM EDT

Considering Cost of Living even? - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:05:33 AM EDT

Yup. - (imric) - Aug. 7, 2006, 01:27:32 PM EDT

7/8 of what I was making in 1998 - (boxley) - Aug. 7, 2006, 09:29:24 AM EDT

Depends on what you mean by better - (JayMehaffey) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 09:33:48 AM EDT

Seconded - (drewk) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 09:47:14 AM EDT

Thirded - (lincoln) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:10:25 PM EDT

Better - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:09:42 AM EDT

Don't I wish - (drewk) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:24:48 AM EDT

IT did have a bubble that is well burst - (boxley) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:25:53 AM EDT

Worse - (bionerd) - (9) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:38:34 AM EDT

By what measure then? - (bepatient) - (8) - Aug. 7, 2006, 11:07:39 AM EDT

While she considers herself better off, - (SpiceWare) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 11:28:58 AM EDT

true nuff -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 7, 2006, 11:34:16 AM EDT

It's a double-edged sword. - (bionerd) - (5) - Aug. 7, 2006, 11:36:31 AM EDT

Now wait just a minute - (bepatient) - (4) - Aug. 7, 2006, 11:44:48 AM EDT

Hold on there, babalooey. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 5, 2006, 04:59:15 PM EDT

I didn't. - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 5, 2006, 06:38:07 PM EDT

Last on this. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 7, 2006, 10:35:53 AM EDT

2 sides in every negotiation. Mgt caved. -NT - (bepatient) - Sept. 7, 2006, 12:04:46 PM EDT

Better - (SpiceWare) - (36) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:42:43 AM EDT

Which all begs the question - (drewk) - (35) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:51:47 AM EDT

Re: Which all begs the question - (bepatient) - (34) - Aug. 7, 2006, 11:06:24 AM EDT

I'll disagree on that - (drewk) - (30) - Aug. 7, 2006, 11:59:28 AM EDT

But we don't want pollution in our yard - (tonytib) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 12:14:13 PM EDT

That's where it gets tricky - (drewk) - Aug. 7, 2006, 12:32:53 PM EDT

It's not just NIMBY. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 7, 2006, 12:37:17 PM EDT

Doesn't solve core issue - (bepatient) - (13) - Aug. 7, 2006, 12:25:02 PM EDT

I definitely agree with one point - (jake123) - Aug. 7, 2006, 01:08:46 PM EDT

What would you train them to be? - (imric) - (11) - Aug. 7, 2006, 02:56:41 PM EDT

Welders, mechanics, operators (machine), butchers, bakers - (bepatient) - (10) - Aug. 7, 2006, 03:35:24 PM EDT

ROFL! Not what I meant at all! - (imric) - (6) - Aug. 7, 2006, 04:35:19 PM EDT

He forgot candlestick maker too :0) - (imqwerky) - Aug. 7, 2006, 04:40:45 PM EDT

Now this ought to be interesting coming from me. - (bepatient) - (4) - Aug. 7, 2006, 04:51:19 PM EDT

Problem with "earning a living" - (drewk) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:10:50 PM EDT

Been there, too. -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:19:28 PM EDT

Dupe (How'd that happen?) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:20:28 PM EDT

Nah - my point - (imric) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:44:14 PM EDT

Butchers aren't happening either... - (hnick) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:10:52 PM EDT

Actually not as bad around here - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:32:29 PM EDT

Well, it's 2 out of 3 of the dominant chains here. - (hnick) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:43:37 PM EDT

I'll second that - (imqwerky) - (12) - Aug. 7, 2006, 01:24:32 PM EDT

You are. -NT - (bepatient) - (11) - Aug. 7, 2006, 01:49:37 PM EDT

I beg to differ. - (imqwerky) - (3) - Aug. 7, 2006, 02:03:28 PM EDT

Beg all you like - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 03:09:39 PM EDT

No, I won't - (imqwerky) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:19:07 PM EDT

You may want - (bepatient) - Aug. 7, 2006, 05:28:14 PM EDT

And so are you. - (folkert) - (6) - Aug. 7, 2006, 02:31:23 PM EDT

:-) - (Another Scott) - Aug. 7, 2006, 02:42:34 PM EDT

Which goes to the point I made to Drew -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 7, 2006, 02:44:17 PM EDT

"All-American" content is not smart - (tonytib) - (3) - Aug. 7, 2006, 04:00:50 PM EDT

Actually, iirc - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 04:04:03 PM EDT

No, public company on the NASDAQ - (tonytib) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 04:18:34 PM EDT

ok. thought it was - (bepatient) - Aug. 7, 2006, 04:33:43 PM EDT

The gains made by the few bring the averages up. -NT - (imric) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 02:50:50 PM EDT

Thats what the other link was for - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 03:26:03 PM EDT

No? - (imric) - Aug. 7, 2006, 03:59:29 PM EDT

Depends on your take of the situation... - (Yendor) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:57:00 AM EDT

Worse. Much worse. -NT - (Silverlock) - Aug. 7, 2006, 12:17:18 PM EDT

Worse - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2006, 06:24:18 PM EDT

That's not a realistic metric - (tonytib) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2006, 07:34:23 PM EDT

Just makes it worse - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 7, 2006, 10:24:22 PM EDT

Funny that I know so many in NJ - (imric) - Aug. 6, 2006, 11:08:57 PM EDT

Ah, now I see where this is going - (JayMehaffey) - (12) - Aug. 3, 2006, 04:06:00 PM EDT

Matters not. - (imric) - (6) - Aug. 3, 2006, 05:37:14 PM EDT

You got that right. -NT - (imqwerky) - Aug. 3, 2006, 05:38:03 PM EDT

you forgot the outlaws -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 3, 2006, 05:46:38 PM EDT

True. -NT - (imric) - Aug. 4, 2006, 01:15:20 AM EDT

And the lawyers ... or is that redundant? -NT - (drewk) - (2) - Aug. 6, 2006, 10:33:02 PM EDT

CAN they be 'outlaws? - (imric) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2006, 11:17:50 PM EDT

Think about it - (drewk) - Aug. 6, 2006, 11:33:06 PM EDT

I wish the NYT didn't make you pay for access - (lincoln) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2006, 05:28:53 PM EDT

The Smirking Chimp has it. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 4, 2006, 05:39:48 PM EDT

That Brooks is a talking head-up-ass on PBS - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 4, 2006, 06:04:18 PM EDT

Isn't about 95% of that piece tongue in cheek? - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2006, 06:23:14 PM EDT

It could be his idea of subtlety, I suppose - (Ashton) - Aug. 4, 2006, 08:20:12 PM EDT

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