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Post #262,126 by bluke 7/19/06 6:06:15 AM Reply	The answer is very simple Hezbollah is firing rockets specifically and only at civilians. In addition Hezbollah like many other terrorist groups specifically hides and shoots rockets from civilian areas and therefore they are the cause of the civilian casualties. Israel is only attacking military and strategic targets and has warned the civilian population. It is Hezbollah's tactics that are causing the civilian deaths.
Post #262,152 by jake123 7/19/06 10:25:16 AM Reply	Re: The answer is very simple Hezbollah is firing rockets specifically and only at civilians. In addition Hezbollah like many other terrorist groups specifically hides and shoots rockets from civilian areas and therefore they are the cause of the civilian casualties. Israel is only attacking military and strategic targets and has warned the civilian population. It is Hezbollah's tactics that are causing the civilian deaths. We're just the triggerman, but it's really their own fault. That's why it's OK. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #262,266 by bluke 7/20/06 3:22:39 AM Reply	Are you prepared to commit suicide? The fact is that both the Palestinians and Hezbollah are shooting rockets at Israeli civilians from highly populated civilian areas. What should Israel do sit back and do nothing while missiles are raining down on Haifa, Safed, etc.?
Post #262,299 by jake123 7/20/06 2:00:56 PM Reply	No, when did I say that? I said nothing of the sort. I DID say that what Israel IS doing was wrong from an ethical perspective, and furthermore that they're really hurting their own interests anyway. Israel is doing a really great job of creating enemies where they did not formerly exist. Good going. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #262,353 by bluke 7/21/06 4:28:53 AM Reply	When they did not exist? What are you talking about? What new enemies has Israel created?
Post #262,372 by jake123 7/21/06 10:01:01 AM Reply	A whole bunch of people in Lebanon that didn't care before do very deeply now. Was the new Lebanese government your enemy before? They are now. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #262,378 by Simon_Jester 7/21/06 12:08:41 PM Reply	Jake...relax. his argument that they were all against him before hand is far more telling. (You don't need to say any more at this point. :-) )

Isreal forces move into Lebanon - (JayMehaffey) - (84) - July 12, 2006, 09:09:53 AM EDT

this action was predicted a week ago - (boxley) - July 12, 2006, 09:33:33 AM EDT

Re: Isreal forces move into Lebanon - (systems) - (81) - July 13, 2006, 03:50:55 AM EDT

And how does this make al-Jazeera less biased? - (admin) - (20) - July 13, 2006, 09:00:23 AM EDT

Umm, Lives in Egypt, is a Sunni, has shown incredible - (broomberg) - July 13, 2006, 09:12:56 AM EDT

Does this really matter? - (systems) - (5) - July 13, 2006, 10:53:04 AM EDT

CNN is not the most popular news channel in the US. - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 13, 2006, 11:12:11 AM EDT

Fox bias is much worse! -NT - (ChrisR) - July 13, 2006, 11:32:25 AM EDT

No, you are biased. - (admin) - July 13, 2006, 11:28:39 AM EDT

I enjoy your posts although I may disagree with you - (boxley) - (1) - July 13, 2006, 02:46:30 PM EDT

Sure there can - (jake123) - July 13, 2006, 02:48:29 PM EDT

FWIW, I'd be more inclined to think that CNN is biased... - (ben_tilly) - (12) - July 13, 2006, 01:36:00 PM EDT

That's not what I asked. -NT - (admin) - (8) - July 13, 2006, 02:10:00 PM EDT

Then adjust what I said - (ben_tilly) - (7) - July 13, 2006, 05:16:09 PM EDT

Not to be cynical... - (hnick) - (6) - July 13, 2006, 06:09:45 PM EDT

ICLRPD. (new thread) - (Another Scott) - July 13, 2006, 06:25:42 PM EDT

I agree with that - (ben_tilly) - (4) - July 13, 2006, 06:40:22 PM EDT

Even NPR? -NT - (broomberg) - (3) - July 13, 2006, 08:34:17 PM EDT

Pick up Armed Madhouse - (ben_tilly) - (2) - July 13, 2006, 08:58:02 PM EDT

Find a Pacifica radio station. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 13, 2006, 09:08:22 PM EDT

Point -NT - (ben_tilly) - July 13, 2006, 09:52:27 PM EDT

CNN says Israel is fighting a 2 front war - (andread) - (2) - July 14, 2006, 11:24:06 AM EDT

you mean they are shooting rockets at themselves? - (boxley) - July 14, 2006, 12:24:46 PM EDT

Really? - (Arkadiy) - July 14, 2006, 02:29:22 PM EDT

I know some Israelis who... - (andread) - July 13, 2006, 09:45:01 AM EDT

Hezbollah was hitting Israel with rockets starting Wed - (Arkadiy) - (55) - July 14, 2006, 02:28:39 PM EDT

Problems with that - (drewk) - (2) - July 14, 2006, 02:44:55 PM EDT

Real chem/bio weapons are really bad - (Arkadiy) - (1) - July 14, 2006, 10:22:10 PM EDT

They are as deadly as nukes - (ben_tilly) - July 14, 2006, 10:53:15 PM EDT

How would Israel know when they won? - (Another Scott) - (3) - July 14, 2006, 03:31:31 PM EDT

Re: How would Israel know when they won? - (Arkadiy) - (2) - July 14, 2006, 10:14:40 PM EDT

War on Hesbollah - (ChrisR) - (1) - July 15, 2006, 09:42:45 AM EDT

Now that I had a few days to - (Arkadiy) - July 16, 2006, 08:22:56 PM EDT

If there can be no winner? - (ChrisR) - (45) - July 14, 2006, 03:37:04 PM EDT

Israel's aim is the following - (bluke) - (2) - July 16, 2006, 06:10:00 AM EDT

Messages via force are rather hard to control - (ChrisR) - July 16, 2006, 11:02:21 AM EDT

Won't work - (broomberg) - July 16, 2006, 11:28:42 AM EDT

This is exactly why standard approach is misguided - (bluke) - (41) - July 16, 2006, 06:33:14 AM EDT

I agree with the assessment of the problem. - (ChrisR) - (38) - July 16, 2006, 11:17:02 AM EDT

What would you suggest? - (bluke) - (29) - July 17, 2006, 04:33:24 AM EDT

Disagree. - (Another Scott) - (28) - July 17, 2006, 07:53:39 AM EDT

You have to understand the reasons here - (bluke) - (27) - July 17, 2006, 09:50:38 AM EDT

They're hardly comparable situations. - (Another Scott) - (26) - July 17, 2006, 10:17:43 AM EDT

In addition, - (bepatient) - (2) - July 17, 2006, 10:27:13 AM EDT

Re: In addition, - (bluke) - July 18, 2006, 09:19:22 AM EDT

No thats not the fact - (bepatient) - July 18, 2006, 12:18:03 PM EDT

That is easy for you to say - (bluke) - (22) - July 18, 2006, 09:21:24 AM EDT

Where are people actually dying from this? - (jake123) - (21) - July 18, 2006, 01:01:55 PM EDT

so no deaths in Israel, whatju smokin? -NT - (boxley) - (10) - July 18, 2006, 01:33:57 PM EDT

Look at the numbers - (jake123) - (9) - July 18, 2006, 03:01:13 PM EDT

Parallels - (drewk) - July 18, 2006, 03:17:50 PM EDT

not saying they are doing the right thing but ignoring the - (boxley) - July 18, 2006, 03:22:03 PM EDT

The answer is very simple - (bluke) - (6) - July 19, 2006, 06:06:15 AM EDT

Re: The answer is very simple - (jake123) - (5) - July 19, 2006, 10:25:16 AM EDT

Are you prepared to commit suicide? - (bluke) - (4) - July 20, 2006, 03:22:39 AM EDT

No, when did I say that? - (jake123) - (3) - July 20, 2006, 02:00:56 PM EDT

When they did not exist? - (bluke) - (2) - July 21, 2006, 04:28:53 AM EDT

A whole bunch of people in Lebanon that didn't care before - (jake123) - (1) - July 21, 2006, 10:01:01 AM EDT

Jake...relax. - (Simon_Jester) - July 21, 2006, 12:08:41 PM EDT

Are you blind deaf and dumb? - (bluke) - (9) - July 19, 2006, 06:02:51 AM EDT

How many civilians has Israel killed in the last fifty years - (jake123) - (8) - July 19, 2006, 10:24:10 AM EDT

how many civilians has Canada killed in the last 50 years - (boxley) - (3) - July 19, 2006, 10:35:00 AM EDT

Nice red herring box - (jake123) - (2) - July 19, 2006, 11:29:36 AM EDT

April 28th 2006 is HISTORY? WTF - (boxley) - (1) - July 19, 2006, 12:14:10 PM EDT

Not resolving here - (jake123) - July 19, 2006, 02:09:23 PM EDT

What does that have to do with anything? - (bluke) - (2) - July 20, 2006, 03:19:46 AM EDT

You severely underestimate Hezbollah's goals. - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 20, 2006, 07:50:29 AM EDT

You are right about Hezbollah goals - (bluke) - July 20, 2006, 08:32:43 AM EDT

Proportion and number of civilian deaths - (bluke) - July 20, 2006, 03:37:40 AM EDT

Israel must be allowed to defend itself.... - (Simon_Jester) - (7) - July 17, 2006, 10:01:29 AM EDT

What are you trying to say? - (bluke) - (6) - July 18, 2006, 09:29:58 AM EDT

Please do not define - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - July 18, 2006, 10:21:35 AM EDT

You can say that about half the countries in the world - (bluke) - (1) - July 18, 2006, 11:40:17 AM EDT

Great, we're in agreement. -NT - (Simon_Jester) - July 18, 2006, 01:47:22 PM EDT

Here's a theory for you - (ben_tilly) - (2) - July 18, 2006, 02:28:47 PM EDT

you been reading harryharrison again? Pyrrus comes to mind -NT - (boxley) - (1) - July 18, 2006, 02:33:06 PM EDT

Nope, Greg Palast's Armed Madhouse. Recommended. - (ben_tilly) - July 18, 2006, 02:45:32 PM EDT

Step 1 would be to stop undermining them - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - July 16, 2006, 05:04:33 PM EDT

Not really - (bluke) - July 17, 2006, 04:37:31 AM EDT

Re: Hezbollah was hitting Israel with rockets starting Wed - (systems) - (1) - July 16, 2006, 02:11:15 AM EDT

Hard to say where the detailed truth lies. - (hnick) - July 16, 2006, 10:07:15 AM EDT

Note that CNN is currently showing... - (admin) - (2) - July 19, 2006, 02:19:47 PM EDT

not with a favorable caption, I wot. -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - July 19, 2006, 02:21:04 PM EDT

Favorable to whom? - (admin) - July 19, 2006, 03:49:13 PM EDT

Victory process, not peace process, needed in Middle East - (bluke) - July 16, 2006, 07:53:43 AM EDT

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