And how does this make al-Jazeera less biased?

Post #261,486 by admin 7/13/06 9:00:23 AM Reply	And how does this make al-Jazeera less biased? It couldn't have happened both ways, so which one is wrong? And why are you assuming CNN is the one that is wrong? Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #261,490 by broomberg 7/13/06 9:12:56 AM Reply	Umm, Lives in Egypt, is a Sunni, has shown incredible naivety when dealing with computer / programming / design systems. Can't really expect him to show a razor sharp analytical side when dealing with this type of stuff either, now can you? \t
Post #261,508 by systems 7/13/06 10:47:49 AM 7/13/06 10:53:04 AM Reply	Does this really matter? This really wasn't the key point in the post, I was mainly more interested to tell, how i perceive the news, and how I find CNN to be biased. And I being from the middle east, I thought ppl here might find my view different and interesting :)))) Israel have been holding as much as 10,000 hostage in its prison, hibz-Allah, was to free them, so they caugh 2 soldiers to negotiate. Some unbiased ppl, may see they got descent cause Israel, killed as much as 27 civilian, I think they rose to 40 by now, at least 10 are kids. Some ppl, would think twice .... i mean never try to justify this. I dont think this is what you saw on CNN, and I find this a shame and frustrating. And the other point was, you should watch more than one news channels to really get an unbiased view. You pick two biased ones, but each biased differently, and the truth is usually somewhere in between. I posted how both presented the news, I didnt wonna be biased! But still I find CNN to be more frustrating and more biased, they actively and loudly, support israel! And I do believe many will completly believe and trust CNN, thus I made my post, I thought maybe I can save the few who read me :))))) ----------------------------------------------- I, being, poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. W. B. Yeats, He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven Edited by systems July 13, 2006, 10:53:04 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #261,517 by Another Scott 7/13/06 11:12:11 AM Reply	CNN is not the most popular news channel in the US. E.g. [link\|http://www.digitalgamedeveloper.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=45996\|Here]: As Fox News Channel prepares for its 10th anniversary in October, the onetime upstart is now the clear market leader, with ratings that are double Cable News Network's. May 2006 marked the 53rd straight month that Fox has topped CNN in the ratings. [...] This year, a much slower news period, the declines have once again resumed. Average primetime audiences hit 2.85 million between December 26, 2005, and May 21, 2006, down from 2.93 million in the same period last year. "The news networks have reached equilibrium where they can't expect the kind of audience growth they've seen in the past," said Robert Thompson, professor of television and popular culture at Syracuse University. "They have to battle it out with each other for most of their viewers. That is why you are seeing each of them pursuing very distinct programming strategies" and formats that often have more to do with targeting specific audiences than reporting the news, he said. [...] [link\|http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6351625.html\|Broadcasting Cable]: World News Tonight, with Diane Sawyer subsituting for Charles Gibson, averaged 7.34 million viewers and a 2.1/9 in the demo. NBC's Nightly News With Brian Williams posted 7.22 million viewers and a 1.9/9. The CBS Evening News, with Harry Smith anchoring, averged 6.52 million viewers and a 1.7/8. Due to the holiday, only Wednesday to Friday broadcasts last week were counted in the ratings for the week of July 3 to 7. News viewing is typically lighter in the summer. Even so, with new anchor Gibson, ABC has been gaining on its main competitor, Nightly News. For the last week in June, for example, ABC and NBC tied in the demo, although Nightly News attracted a larger audience. ABC has now been No. 1 or tied NBC in the demo for the last four weeks. The over-the-air network news broadcasts each have at least twice the audience of the cable news primetime shows. CNN isn't the biggest cable channel, in terms of audience, any more. FWIW. What's your view of the [link\|http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5174726.stm\|BBC] and [link\|http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2094671,00.html\|DW] and [link\|http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aE.5wN1ZnkpE&refer=worldwide_news\|Bloomberg] coverage? Cheers, Scott.
Post #261,529 by ChrisR 7/13/06 11:32:25 AM Reply	Fox bias is much worse!
Post #261,524 by admin 7/13/06 11:28:39 AM Reply	No, you are biased. Reasonable people would think that neither side has cause for violence, because violence only perpetuates violence. Reading the CNN story again, I don't see them "actively and loudly" supporting Israel. The current story basically says: 1) Israel attacked the Beirut airport in a "sharp escalation" of its military campaign 2) Hizbollah fired rockets into Israel There are quotes from both sides, and if anything Israel is being painted as much more aggressive. The Lebanese Interior Minister is quoted as saying the Israeli attack is a "general act of war", Abbas is quoted as saying that the attacks won't bring peace, Bush is quoted as telling the Israelis not to get too aggressive, and the Israelis are quoted basically trash talking about how severe and harsh the response is going to be. Casualties on both sides are given, and are reported as being worse in Lebanon. I don't see anything supporting one side or the other, so the only thing I can see that you might be complaining about is that CNN isn't directly supporting Hizbollah's position. I don't see that as biased at all. Personally, I think both sides are off their rockers. And I read a lot more than just CNN and al-Jazeera. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #261,598 by boxley 7/13/06 2:46:30 PM Reply	I enjoy your posts although I may disagree with you I also enjoy Aljazeera. However they CAN be no unbiased news reporting of that particular conflict. thanx, Bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #261,601 by jake123 7/13/06 2:48:29 PM Reply	Sure there can CBC had a guy over there for some years who did a pretty good job of it. He was routinely cursed out by both the palestinian and the israeli lobbies here, which tells me he probably hit it pretty close to the mark. He's working in Washington now. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #261,570 by ben_tilly 7/13/06 1:36:00 PM Reply	FWIW, I'd be more inclined to think that CNN is biased... than al-Jazeera. But that's entirely cynicism about the current state of news misreporting. Cheers, Ben a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
Post #261,579 by admin 7/13/06 2:10:00 PM Reply	That's not what I asked. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #261,632 by ben_tilly 7/13/06 5:16:09 PM Reply	Then adjust what I said I also am inclined to believe that CNN is more biased than al-Jazeera. Again, this is an inclination only. Cheers, Ben a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
Post #261,639 by hnick 7/13/06 6:09:45 PM Reply	Not to be cynical... but both "news" agencies are trying to get different audiences to watch them. If they tell them things they REALLY don't like, the average mouth breather will stop watching. It's my opinion that they both slant the news to accomodate their viewers mindset. It may not be entirely intentional. Tne ones selecting and often reporting the news are usually from the culture they are broadcasting to. Today Diogenes would be looking for an impartial newscaster. My 0.02
Post #261,641 by Another Scott 7/13/06 6:25:42 PM Reply	ICLRPD. (new thread) Created as new thread #261640 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=261640\|ICLRPD.]
Post #261,642 by ben_tilly 7/13/06 6:40:22 PM Reply	I agree with that I just happen to also believe that US-influenced media has pretty much stopped even bothering to try for objectivity. Cheers, Ben a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
Post #261,647 by broomberg 7/13/06 8:34:17 PM Reply	Even NPR?
Post #261,651 by ben_tilly 7/13/06 8:58:02 PM Reply	Pick up Armed Madhouse Ask yourself how many of those stories ever appeared on NPR. Yes, NPR is better than the rest. But it still isn't nearly as good as I want. Cheers, Ben a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
Post #261,653 by Another Scott 7/13/06 9:08:22 PM Reply	Find a Pacifica radio station.
Post #261,660 by ben_tilly 7/13/06 9:52:27 PM Reply	Point a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
Post #261,701 by andread 7/14/06 11:24:06 AM Reply	CNN says Israel is fighting a 2 front war war? only one side has a military A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #261,708 by boxley 7/14/06 12:24:46 PM Reply	you mean they are shooting rockets at themselves? how odd. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #261,740 by Arkadiy 7/14/06 2:29:22 PM Reply	Really? Hesbollah has no military? That's a surprise. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]

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