So, what is WebKit's User-Agent string again...?

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Post #247,990 by CRConrad 3/15/06 9:53:23 AM Reply	So, what is WebKit's User-Agent string again...? Idunno, you may be right... But I'm not sure. I mean, to take just one example, presumably they knew pretty soon that their release of KHTML was going to be a complete fork; and they were asked when, over a year ago?, to change the User-Agent string to something other than "khtml". Are we supposed to believe that was because they "have an employer and customer base to please"? Too big a change to implement before release deadline, with Steve breathing down their necks? Or is it millions of Safari users, demanding with one voice, "No! Don't change the User-Agent string to 'safari' in our browser!"? Somehow, I doubt it... Essentially, what you're saying is that you are blinded not only by the Jobsian RDF, but also by being friends with some of these people. Are you seriously trying to claim that makes you less biased about them and what they do? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link\|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105\|Mr. Hat]
Post #247,997 by tuberculosis 3/15/06 11:04:05 AM 8/21/07 6:37:10 AM Reply	It doesn't have one Its up to the browser to provide it. Safari's is Safari (<version-number>). This goes all the way back to 1.1 at least (current is 2.04 I think). This is annoying because it fragment's all the Safari versions across our metrics report. It does not say khtml I don't think - did it ever? Not sure. Maybe I'm biased, but I'd behave the same way in their shoes. KHhtml just provides the parser and the DOM I think - basically it does the same thing I did for Scrutinizer. The converting DOM to pixels is done in a platform dependent way through Apple's Qt compatibility library that in turn calls Quartz. Many fixes end up in this layer and don't help the K people. Oh well. Do they have to back port all those changes to K's rendering engine? I don't see why they should. Its a completely different beast. I don't think I'm blinded by the RDF - but I do identify with the people involved in this instance. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:37:10 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #248,005 by pwhysall 3/15/06 2:44:23 PM Reply	Re: So, what is WebKit's User-Agent string again...? It's "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/417.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/417.9.2" Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #248,012 by CRConrad 3/15/06 4:21:17 PM Reply	That would mean I was at least partly wrong i.e, That the old complaints I'd read had apparently been addressed. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link\|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105\|Mr. Hat]
Post #248,014 by SpiceWare 3/15/06 4:54:30 PM Reply	maybe you should suggest an Apple Is Guilty forum Darrell Spice, Jr. Trendy yet complex\nPeople seek me out - though they're not sure why\n[link\|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass\|Artistic Overpass] [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare]

IBM ditching windows - (SpiceWare) - (28) - March 8, 2006, 09:37:22 AM EST

:-) - (Steve Lowe) - March 8, 2006, 11:24:21 AM EST

Re: IBM ditching windows - (pwhysall) - March 8, 2006, 12:09:41 PM EST

More - (Steve Lowe) - (23) - March 8, 2006, 12:24:09 PM EST

One piece of speculation there sounds on the money - (ben_tilly) - (3) - March 8, 2006, 12:33:42 PM EST

Servers? - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - March 8, 2006, 12:37:34 PM EST

So, they typically sell them without an OS nowaday. - (folkert) - March 8, 2006, 03:49:52 PM EST

Good point. - (Another Scott) - March 8, 2006, 12:38:27 PM EST

His Reflections on Apple seem wrong - (SpiceWare) - (18) - March 8, 2006, 01:11:14 PM EST

I think they're accurate - (ben_tilly) - (17) - March 8, 2006, 06:04:29 PM EST

interesting - thanx -NT - (SpiceWare) - March 8, 2006, 06:15:00 PM EST

Not entirely - (tuberculosis) - (15) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:30:40 AM EDT

They comply with the license. Big whoop. - (ben_tilly) - (14) - March 13, 2006, 06:40:32 PM EST

That's a very old post - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:32:02 AM EDT

It is under a year old - (ben_tilly) - (12) - March 13, 2006, 08:17:21 PM EST

Things move fast - (tuberculosis) - (11) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:34:18 AM EDT

Please clarify - (ben_tilly) - (10) - March 14, 2006, 01:25:36 AM EST

The post that you cite - (tuberculosis) - (9) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:35:55 AM EDT

Sounds like desperate rationalisation on your part. - (CRConrad) - (8) - March 15, 2006, 02:33:07 AM EST

No, Apple is plenty flakey in lots of areas - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:36:40 AM EDT

So, what is WebKit's User-Agent string again...? - (CRConrad) - (4) - March 15, 2006, 09:53:23 AM EST

It doesn't have one - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:37:10 AM EDT

Re: So, what is WebKit's User-Agent string again...? - (pwhysall) - (2) - March 15, 2006, 02:44:23 PM EST

That would mean I was at least partly wrong - (CRConrad) - (1) - March 15, 2006, 04:21:17 PM EST

maybe you should suggest an Apple Is Guilty forum -NT - (SpiceWare) - March 15, 2006, 04:54:30 PM EST

And your familarity with the events is what, CRC? -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 15, 2006, 07:48:06 AM EST

Zero[*]. Did I ever say anything else? - (CRConrad) - March 15, 2006, 09:55:53 AM EST

Or Not. - (altmann) - (1) - March 14, 2006, 01:46:22 AM EST

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