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New Thank you all so much.
It means a lot to have you guys rooting for me. All your offers of support make me feel all mushy inside. You dont know what it means to have people in my corner (people whom I never met, but are there for me!) when I feel that I am fighting this alone. Thank you. Thank you all.

I'm gonna be whiney and needy for a while. If you dont want to hear about the drama, avoid my posts. I'm sick of it all myself, but a girl's gotta vent. You know what? My life is so fucked up right now I've turned into one of my clients. I'm just like the people I talk to every day. My life is a Jerry Springer episode. I HATE IT!

I was reading my Friend of the Court Handbook- these are the people in MI responsible for child support enforcement. The opening sentence in the book reads

"We are not your friend".

I can tell this is going to be fun. I left a message for my court appointed referee. A summary of her outgoing message: I prefer you dont leave a message. Fax me your questions. If you leave a message, I will respond to you. If you leave a message or send a fax, dont contact me again. I will get back with you.

Uhh...okay. And a good day to you, too, lady.

The Ass and the Mrs. are flying in from butt fuck Iowa (I've used that expression before, but never has it been so appropriate) tomorrow. My son doesnt want to see his dad, so I'm shipping him off to a neighbor. My daughter is excited because she is hoping her Dad will bring her a present. The innocence of a 6 year old. She's too pure of heart to be crushed yet.

I dont know if The Ass has an agenda for this little visit, other than incorporating the children into his happily-ever-after fantasy, but I will be reviewing the divorce judgment with him and obtaining the information I need to pursue legal action. His gin soaked addled brain wont even anticipate this. His new wife will not like me, guaranteed. Fine way for them to start a marriage. Stupid, stupid people.


New She doesn't need to like you
Your responsibility is to do what's best for the kids -- and it sounds like that is exactly what you're doing. Don't let a little thing like some new wife stand in the way of watching out for your sprogs.

Along with the rest of the people here, my sympathies go out to you in your time of need. I hope for your sake that things turn out even better than you presently expect in your wildest dreams.
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New How do we contact you off-line?
If you don't have one, consider a GMail [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=220716|account]. Please post an obfuscated version of the address (it doesn't have to be your name) so that we can contact you.

You (er, we) Michiganders (I was born in Trenton) can be a stubborn lot. Don't refuse our help. It doesn't do anyone any good. :-)

Thanks.

Cheers,
Scott.
New So far, still have the work email
laurad at responseworks dot com

Am setting up a consulting thing with my old boss so I can continue to work a bit for him and get some money flowing my way asap.

I'm shifting out of the panic mode today and getting mobilized. Now I'm just plain pissed. The revenge fantasies are starting to surface. I figure that's a good thing.
New Thanks. Go check it. :-)
New just did- nothing yet :-(
New Hmm. A note to the UK and back has already finished.
VA to MI shouldn't take that long, but who knows...

I'll try again in a couple of hours if you still don't have it by then.

Cheers,
Scott.
New I've been pinging a friend back and forth in MN just now
with no probs.

I'm sure it'll bounce in soon.
New Resent it just now...
New Got it- check your inbox.
(and thanks)
New Likewise.
New Those fantasies are good
They will help keep your sanity.

Make some of them that don't involve bloodshed or physical torture come true on his Tom Collin's ass! :-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid
New Prec\ufffdsamente, amigo____\ufffdVerdad!

New ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #222500 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=222500|ICLRPD]
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New make your favorite meatloaf for them
alpo lotsa garlic and use Heinz chili seafood sauce for flavoring
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New be that way...
"...I'm shifting out of the panic mode today and getting mobilized. Now I'm just plain pissed."
There you go. Regrets: be careful not to do anything you will regret later. It's too late for him. :-)
Have fun,
Carl Forde
New If your meeting may be confrontational
Then have the new wife stay in the car. DON'T invite her in. She will, of course, take her "pure as the driven snow" new hubby's side. You've, more than likely, been demonized. Best yet, is to have a male friend with you to defend you when things get ugly.

Sorry to bring this all up, but this type of issue can get pretty ugly, pretty quick and you need to remember that.

And I'll second the meatloaf suggestion. :-)

ot: where abouts in MN is your friend?
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New I thought about having a male friend come over
But thought that might escalate things more. Ex would probably view that as me throwing my love life (what love life?) in his face and he would take it as an affront. That's how he sees things. I'm not looking forward to battling with them alone, though. I have a couple of neighbors on alert- they will help out if needed.

I like the meatloaf recipe, too, but am not going to waste a perfectly good can of alpo on them. Little Sadie has to eat, too!

Friends in MN are in Rochester- docs at the Mayo clinic. I have another friend in Eagan. They are trying to convince me to relocate out there. We'll see.
New OT: add me to the arm twisting crowd
Live in St. Paul, work in Eagan. Would gladly welcome you to the tundra.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New If he brings wife, you're entitled to have male friend there
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New Nothing to do with that.
Yes, you should have support. No, it should not be a male VS fame thing.
A coupe of well armed women within shouting distance would probably be a good thing.
New a couple of female cowboys would do nicely
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Shoot, a couple of male cowboys hanging around would do
nicely, too! Yee haw!
New around here female cowboys
are females that enjoyeach others company and are tough as wild bill hickok on steroids
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New oh. well, I dont want *them* around
New My brother'in'law called them "Turbo Diesels"
New Advice from a mediator/friend
I have a friend who has been a mediator. She suggested meeting on neutral territory, as that levels the playing field. With other people present or nearby, violence is less likely to break out. If it does, all the cellphones will be dialing 9-1-1.

Hope this helps.

Wishing you peace,
Amy

"Losing your mind is like losing your keys. You have to retrace your steps to find out where you left it. But the bonus is that you usually find loose change in the cushions." ABR '05 :-D
New I kicked butt!!! (new thread)
Created as new thread #222634 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=222634|I kicked butt!!!]
     To whomever is in charge of the universe: - (bionerd) - (85)
         My sympathy goes out to you, in bunches. - (Andrew Grygus)
         Book recommendation. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
             Thank you. I will read it - (bionerd) - (1)
                 Good. -NT - (inthane-chan)
         OK. - (imric)
         If you find yourself desperate for cash, let me know. - (Silverlock) - (2)
             Stop making me cry! - (bionerd)
             Ditto the offer - (jbrabeck)
         Hang in there. - (Another Scott) - (5)
             Doesn't that refer to moving the child away from the parent? - (drewk) - (4)
                 Yup. My bad. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                     Michigan has this nasty habit of... - (folkert)
                     Yes, - (bionerd) - (1)
                         Glad you're on top of things. Sorry about the trouble. :-( -NT - (Another Scott)
         Done. - (folkert) - (2)
             Ditto -NT - (broomberg)
             :) - (Steve Lowe)
         You have my best thoughts as well. -NT - (hnick)
         Oh Laura, I'm so sorry! - (Nightowl)
         I have faith - (bepatient)
         ya gets stuck let us know on the qt - (boxley)
         Make haste to call his former employer (hug amended) - (imqwerky) - (6)
             Hmmm - (Nightowl) - (2)
                 I think it means you stole Laura's hug. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     That's what I was afraid of! - (Nightowl)
             Already got them on a state insurance program - (bionerd) - (2)
                 This may not be much of a comfort... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                     Whatever happened to that series? (new thread) - (admin)
         IANAL but... - (ChrisR) - (10)
             new wife is not obligated to old kids, my brother went thru - (boxley) - (9)
                 In michigan where the Divorce happened... - (folkert) - (8)
                     any new wife would be stupid to have a joint account - (boxley) - (7)
                         Prima facia evidence that she is stupid... - (ChrisR) - (6)
                             ahem, so did laura but I didnt want to mention it :/ -NT - (boxley) - (5)
                                 Was prior to establishing the fact that he was a loser - (ChrisR) - (4)
                                     Exactly - (jake123)
                                     He wasnt a loser when I married him - (bionerd) - (2)
                                         There is no evolution - he was stupidly designed - (tuberculosis)
                                         He didn't evolve, he degenerated... -NT - (jbrabeck)
         Sue his ass for child support - (jake123)
         The Universe replies - (Ashton) - (2)
             This is one of the few times - (bionerd) - (1)
                 Periodically, Ashtonese can be... - (ChrisR)
         If there is a God, He has a taste for practical jokes :-( -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Sorry to hear it, Laura. - (admin)
         Stiff upper lip. - (pwhysall)
         ugh, oh man, ouch. - (cforde) - (1)
             Well said. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Best wishes & crossed fingers from t'other side of the world -NT - (Meerkat)
         Thank you all so much. - (bionerd) - (28)
             She doesn't need to like you - (Yendor)
             How do we contact you off-line? - (Another Scott) - (14)
                 So far, still have the work email - (bionerd) - (13)
                     Thanks. Go check it. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (6)
                         just did- nothing yet :-( -NT - (bionerd) - (5)
                             Hmm. A note to the UK and back has already finished. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                 I've been pinging a friend back and forth in MN just now - (bionerd) - (3)
                                     Resent it just now... -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                         Got it- check your inbox. - (bionerd) - (1)
                                             Likewise. -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Those fantasies are good - (bepatient) - (2)
                         La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid -NT - (ChrisR) - (1)
                             Prec\ufffdsamente, amigo____\ufffdVerdad! -NT - (Ashton)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                     make your favorite meatloaf for them - (boxley)
                     be that way... - (cforde)
             If your meeting may be confrontational - (jbrabeck) - (11)
                 I thought about having a male friend come over - (bionerd) - (8)
                     OT: add me to the arm twisting crowd - (jbrabeck)
                     If he brings wife, you're entitled to have male friend there -NT - (jbrabeck) - (6)
                         Nothing to do with that. - (broomberg) - (5)
                             a couple of female cowboys would do nicely -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                 Shoot, a couple of male cowboys hanging around would do - (bionerd) - (3)
                                     around here female cowboys - (boxley) - (2)
                                         oh. well, I dont want *them* around -NT - (bionerd)
                                         My brother'in'law called them "Turbo Diesels" -NT - (broomberg)
                 Advice from a mediator/friend - (imqwerky) - (1)
                     I kicked butt!!! (new thread) - (bionerd)
         Happy thoughts are immediately en route. - (jb4) - (6)
             It's always them that don't deserve that gets. - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                 Who makes up these rules? - (bionerd) - (4)
                     ->*ZOT*<- -NT - (inthane-chan)
                     Well . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         ICLRPD. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                         NOT TOO SHABBY____MY. SON. -NT - (Ashton)

Whenever someone says, "Show, don't tell," aren't they violating that exact rule?
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