Re: And...

Post #219,784 by pwhysall 8/17/05 5:14:01 PM Reply	Re: And... we have command prompts with the first and last of those (one of the Emacs users built a lot of support into his Emacs install), and compile-as-you-type sounds to me like a productivity drain since often you want to leave stuff broken as you switch around. (When I used VB my number one complaint was that it would force me through a popup every time that I went elsewhere in the code while the current line was incomplete.) It sounds like a productivity drain to you, because you're an expert. I'm not, and it's not. I'd also have performance concerns when dealing with over 100K lines of code. So would I! It'd mean I'd be severely not doing my job. Programming is weenywork, and I Don't Do That. Also, if there were 100K lines of code in the file I were dealing with, I'd be hunting down and killing twice the dumbass programmer who generated it. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #219,802 by ben_tilly 8/17/05 6:23:23 PM Reply	It was a productivity drain even when I was a beginner Because I was generally going to look somewhere else for information that I needed to put on that line. Like, say, what a variable was named. Or to select something to cut and paste. As for 100K lines, that isn't one file. That's across the project. But since a lot of that is in modules that load each other, much of that would always be in memory if you're trying to incrementally recompile. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #219,805 by pwhysall 8/17/05 6:28:21 PM Reply	You Are Not Me This is the part you are not understanding. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #219,813 by ben_tilly 8/17/05 6:58:22 PM Reply	Oh, I understand that I'm just pointing out a flaw in your theory about which difference between us resulted in a different impression of a specific feature. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #219,857 by pwhysall 8/18/05 12:08:09 AM Reply	I'm puzzled. Could you explain what theory of mine (apart from the (hopefully) self-evident one that you and I are not the same) has a flaw and why this makes you persist in wondering why I use Eclipse for Perl, despite the fact that I keep answering the question? I'm serious. You've lost me here. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #219,864 by ben_tilly 8/18/05 12:55:23 AM Reply	If you'll notice... I stopped asking you that question after [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=219784\|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=219784]. The theory that I was responding to was your assertion that incremental compiles sound like a productivity drain to me because I'm an expert. That's not true. They sound like a productivity drain because the implementation that I'm most familiar with sucked badly. (Badly enough for me to notice even when I was a novice.) Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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