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Utterly transparent
Post #214,311
by
JayMehaffey
7/11/05 7:28:35 PM
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Utterly transparent
Rove's new 'I talked about it but I didn't name names' ranks up there with 'I didn't inhale' as a worthless and transparent defense.
Except of course that Clintons crime is just a minor offense at worse, while Rove's borders on treason.
Jay
Rove spoke with reporter about Plame
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admin
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- July 11, 2005, 05:44:45 PM EDT
Nasty press conference
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admin
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- July 11, 2005, 05:50:17 PM EDT
But will this actually get play in the media?
-NT
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ben_tilly
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- July 11, 2005, 06:05:58 PM EDT
But he didn't name names.
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marlowe
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- July 11, 2005, 07:03:33 PM EDT
Utterly transparent
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JayMehaffey
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- July 11, 2005, 07:28:35 PM EDT
Technicality: "Wilson's Wife" is a pretty fair substitute
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tuberculosis
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- July 12, 2005, 01:12:27 AM EDT
The question may well reduce to,
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Ashton
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- July 12, 2005, 02:36:40 AM EDT
It's really a moot point.
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jbrabeck
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- July 12, 2005, 12:00:05 PM EDT
First, need to convict the president.
-NT
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tuberculosis
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- July 12, 2005, 12:05:48 PM EDT
President Cheney? <shudder>
-NT
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Another Scott
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- July 12, 2005, 12:35:15 PM EDT
And his accomplices
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tuberculosis
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- July 12, 2005, 12:46:49 PM EDT
Logic! _____what hath happened to thy sting..
-NT
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Ashton
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- July 12, 2005, 04:07:38 PM EDT
Else he gets an immediate pardon
-NT
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ben_tilly
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- July 12, 2005, 12:47:54 PM EDT
Ah yesss...
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Ashton
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- July 12, 2005, 05:32:47 PM EDT
I know who Marlowe is! parrot party line, check
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boxley
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- July 12, 2005, 08:00:42 PM EDT
Nicely done, Box!
-NT
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jb4
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- July 13, 2005, 09:50:37 AM EDT
In defense of my pseudonymity...
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marlowe
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- July 14, 2005, 09:34:03 PM EDT
:-) the part that clued me in was a rant about Rove
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boxley
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- July 14, 2005, 09:50:19 PM EDT
Just goes to show how low Hannity will stoop
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jb4
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- July 15, 2005, 09:43:56 AM EDT
Better stay on Rove's good side...
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ChrisR
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- July 14, 2005, 09:55:41 PM EDT
Rove would never out me.
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marlowe
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- July 17, 2005, 03:25:30 PM EDT
on not naming names (new thread)
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rcareaga
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- July 12, 2005, 10:51:57 PM EDT
I don't care if he's fired...I want jail time!
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jb4
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- July 13, 2005, 09:45:15 AM EDT
Good luck. Here's the Wall Street Journal's take...
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hnick
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- July 13, 2005, 11:51:17 AM EDT
Anonymous author?
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tuberculosis
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- July 13, 2005, 01:01:37 PM EDT
Don't need a name on that one
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JayMehaffey
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- July 13, 2005, 01:16:42 PM EDT
Nit but likely not minor
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bepatient
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- July 13, 2005, 03:25:36 PM EDT
I guess it's possible
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JayMehaffey
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- July 14, 2005, 06:22:11 PM EDT
Isn't nepotism a hangable offense?
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ChrisR
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- July 14, 2005, 01:49:47 PM EDT
Nah..its ok here.
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 01:58:12 PM EDT
(ref. B. Ebbers)
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jb4
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- July 14, 2005, 04:06:53 PM EDT
Probably James Taranto
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Another Scott
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- July 13, 2005, 01:46:18 PM EDT
Did you see "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" on 7/13/05?
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imqwerky
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- July 14, 2005, 12:19:57 PM EDT
Linky.
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Another Scott
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- July 14, 2005, 12:28:47 PM EDT
You wont get it becasue he didn't break that law
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bepatient
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- July 13, 2005, 12:29:56 PM EDT
How do you pick up the talking points memo so quickly?
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Silverlock
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- July 13, 2005, 12:55:16 PM EDT
Prefer to listen to those who wrote the law.
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bepatient
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- July 13, 2005, 01:08:48 PM EDT
You're kidding right?
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Silverlock
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- July 14, 2005, 09:53:57 AM EDT
You must be
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 11:46:02 AM EDT
C'mon BeeP, you (of all people) know better than that
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jb4
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- July 14, 2005, 01:36:43 PM EDT
And there isn't any
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 01:56:16 PM EDT
But there will be
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jb4
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- July 14, 2005, 04:05:09 PM EDT
Let's assume the authors of this piece are non-partisan
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Silverlock
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- July 15, 2005, 08:51:29 PM EDT
That first section is incorrect.
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 09:35:58 PM EDT
Re: That first section is incorrect.
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JayMehaffey
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- July 14, 2005, 03:48:16 PM EDT
Her classmate disagrees
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tuberculosis
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- July 13, 2005, 12:57:12 PM EDT
Lemme get this straight...
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jb4
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- July 13, 2005, 02:27:09 PM EDT
Yep
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bepatient
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- July 13, 2005, 03:16:58 PM EDT
Maybe we should wait until the grand jury is done?
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Another Scott
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- July 13, 2005, 03:41:02 PM EDT
Reminescent of Whitewater?
-NT
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ChrisR
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- July 13, 2005, 04:17:11 PM EDT
Why do that?
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 11:48:16 AM EDT
Fits his MO, done it before, leopards, spots, ya ya ya
-NT
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tuberculosis
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- July 14, 2005, 01:29:01 PM EDT
Yep..and same result should apply.
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 01:57:11 PM EDT
I would add jail
-NT
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tuberculosis
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- July 14, 2005, 04:40:47 PM EDT
I assume that was pointed at me.
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Silverlock
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- July 14, 2005, 02:07:21 PM EDT
Good assumption
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 02:27:26 PM EDT
"who wrote the law"
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Silverlock
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- July 14, 2005, 03:23:00 PM EDT
where is the definition of "covert agent"?
-NT
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boxley
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- July 14, 2005, 03:25:03 PM EDT
Try dictionary.com or google or findlaw
-NT
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Silverlock
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- July 14, 2005, 03:40:52 PM EDT
lets ask the cia
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boxley
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- July 14, 2005, 03:57:39 PM EDT
Already been discounted
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Silverlock
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- July 14, 2005, 04:12:00 PM EDT
Here
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 04:59:36 PM EDT
That definition might fit.
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ben_tilly
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- July 14, 2005, 05:31:49 PM EDT
Ah, the key...
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Simon_Jester
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- July 14, 2005, 06:39:16 PM EDT
The ripple effect is huge
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broomberg
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- July 14, 2005, 06:54:10 PM EDT
And there is no question...
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ben_tilly
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- July 14, 2005, 08:56:21 PM EDT
Watching too many movies Barry
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 09:03:34 PM EDT
Nope, just CIA torture manuals
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broomberg
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- July 14, 2005, 10:37:11 PM EDT
We know what she worked on.
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Another Scott
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- July 14, 2005, 07:08:45 PM EDT
Stop that
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 09:02:00 PM EDT
I've wondered why Rove is still around.
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Another Scott
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- July 14, 2005, 09:12:29 PM EDT
Bite your tongue
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bepatient
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- July 14, 2005, 09:38:55 PM EDT
I don't understand you
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Silverlock
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- July 14, 2005, 09:43:30 PM EDT
This is all partisan
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 08:10:17 AM EDT
Hey Beep: $200MM == 1 day in Iraq
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jb4
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- July 15, 2005, 09:49:52 AM EDT
Instant justification? :-/
-NT
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 10:05:49 AM EDT
Whatever.
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Silverlock
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- July 15, 2005, 12:10:29 PM EDT
Are you that dense?
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 12:43:12 PM EDT
Part of the larger picture
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ChrisR
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- July 15, 2005, 01:13:56 PM EDT
No quibbles here.
-NT
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 01:25:28 PM EDT
Well said.
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imqwerky
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- July 15, 2005, 01:34:51 PM EDT
Must disclose that reviewer has nepotistic ties...
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ChrisR
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- July 15, 2005, 02:08:28 PM EDT
I guess I must be
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Silverlock
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- July 15, 2005, 02:37:50 PM EDT
Fine
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 03:36:31 PM EDT
Transcript?
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Silverlock
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- July 15, 2005, 03:47:47 PM EDT
No.
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 05:07:36 PM EDT
ICLRPD (new thread)
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ben_tilly
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- July 15, 2005, 05:13:51 PM EDT
Senate Intelligence Committee report. Long excerpt.
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Another Scott
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- July 15, 2005, 05:42:22 PM EDT
Yeah, but...
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 06:20:37 PM EDT
Wilson has always claimed that the CIA sent him....
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Simon_Jester
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- July 15, 2005, 06:51:58 PM EDT
I'd rather avoid the hypotheticals myself.
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Another Scott
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- July 15, 2005, 08:08:35 PM EDT
Be very careful
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bepatient
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- July 15, 2005, 09:39:53 PM EDT
Actually, I agree also.
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Silverlock
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- July 15, 2005, 09:53:34 PM EDT
I tend to agree.
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Simon_Jester
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- July 16, 2005, 07:04:49 AM EDT
Had to blame someone. Can't admit a mistake, you know. ;-)
-NT
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Another Scott
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- July 16, 2005, 08:47:54 AM EDT
big banner on the top, neutrality of this page disputed :-)
-NT
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boxley
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- July 15, 2005, 03:52:03 PM EDT
so rove is guilty, why shouldnt he get the same punishment
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boxley
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- July 15, 2005, 06:02:40 PM EDT
Lost his clearance. That would mean Rove would have to go.
-NT
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Another Scott
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- July 15, 2005, 06:06:38 PM EDT
nope he is a political architect not a spymaster
-NT
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boxley
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- July 15, 2005, 06:36:03 PM EDT
I'd be very surprised if he didn't have a secret clearance.
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Another Scott
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- July 15, 2005, 07:12:43 PM EDT
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