I doubt he was the founder.

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Post #214,097

7/8/05 10:55:19 PM

I doubt he was the founder.

And, as far as I know, it's only considered a religion by those who use it as a detracting description. I don't think I've ever met anyone who follows secular humanism. I may be wrong, and probably am because I don't really know what it means in relation to religion. I've only ever seen it applied as a label to others. I can't remember a single instance of anyone ever declaring "I'm a secular humanist". If I knew what it meant and agreed with it, I'd be happy to make that statement however.

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Post #214,098

7/8/05 11:07:52 PM

here ya go

[link|http://www.secularhumanism.org/|http://www.secularhumanism.org/]

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What Is Secular Humanism?

Secular Humanism is a term which has come into use in the last thirty years to describe a world view with the following elements and principles:

* A conviction that dogmas, ideologies and traditions, whether religious, political or social, must be weighed and tested by each individual and not simply accepted on faith.
* Commitment to the use of critical reason, factual evidence, and scientific methods of inquiry, rather than faith and mysticism, in seeking solutions to human problems and answers to important human questions.
* A primary concern with fulfillment, growth, and creativity for both the individual and humankind in general.
* A constant search for objective truth, with the understanding that new knowledge and experience constantly alter our imperfect perception of it.
* A concern for this life and a commitment to making it meaningful through better understanding of ourselves, our history, our intellectual and artistic achievements, and the outlooks of those who differ from us.
* A search for viable individual, social and political principles of ethical conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility.
* A conviction that with reason, an open marketplace of ideas, good will, and tolerance, progress can be made in building a better world for ourselves and our children.

all the rules of the religious but denying the label :-)
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