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Post #205,344
by hnick
4/30/05 3:17:21 PM
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New Not entirely mistaken
Developers do unit test, but for the problems that they forsee. There are a lot of corner cases and variants on a theme that might not occur to the developer. Those are what system test is supposed to find. Unit test mainly picks up the mainstream faults. I know that system test has found problems with my stuff doing things that I never imagined.
Post #205,775
by jb4
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5/3/05 6:41:18 PM
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New Well...that true, if
..they write the test after they write a given function. If they write the test before they write the function, the module tends to work properly for the input that conforms to the expected cases, and tends to fail (gracefully) for everything else...which is sort of what you'd expect from a properly written module.

And one tends to hope that input of the form, "the day before Bob's birthday," is not in the set of expected cases....
jb4
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     $whore++ - (drewk) - (31) - April 29, 2005, 10:07:05 PM EDT
         Hey, maybe it'll work - (broomberg) - (22) - April 29, 2005, 10:15:47 PM EDT
             I've got this theory - (drewk) - (17) - April 29, 2005, 10:36:15 PM EDT
                 We'll see what really happens - (broomberg) - April 29, 2005, 11:45:21 PM EDT
                 Argument strength - (tuberculosis) - (15) - April 30, 2005, 02:16:09 PM EDT
                     Isn't that statement too strong? - (Another Scott) - (14) - April 30, 2005, 02:58:00 PM EDT
                         You're both right - (drewk) - April 30, 2005, 03:11:59 PM EDT
                         Not entirely mistaken - (hnick) - (1) - April 30, 2005, 03:17:21 PM EDT
                             Well...that true, if - (jb4) - May 3, 2005, 06:41:18 PM EDT
                         Developers. Testing. Same sentence. - (pwhysall) - (6) - April 30, 2005, 03:21:29 PM EDT
                             Actual conversation *had* at work - (drewk) - (4) - April 30, 2005, 03:28:25 PM EDT
                                 Preach it, brother. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - April 30, 2005, 03:34:49 PM EDT
                                     While I'm on the topic - (drewk) - (1) - April 30, 2005, 03:51:55 PM EDT
                                         You worked for the Pentagon, right? _____________________;-j -NT - (Another Scott) - April 30, 2005, 03:57:23 PM EDT
                                 I have to deal with that all the time >:-P - (imric) - May 1, 2005, 08:43:22 AM EDT
                             Heh. Ben didn't call me Pollyanna for nothing. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - April 30, 2005, 03:44:40 PM EDT
                         You are, indeed, mistaken - (ben_tilly) - (3) - April 30, 2005, 05:41:44 PM EDT
                             That's *one* of the people you want testing - (drewk) - (2) - April 30, 2005, 06:13:06 PM EDT
                                 I'm reminded of an old story - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 30, 2005, 08:59:37 PM EDT
                                     Bwahahahaaa - (jake123) - April 30, 2005, 09:01:37 PM EDT
             I think it's just the opposite - (Arkadiy) - (2) - May 12, 2005, 07:27:53 AM EDT
                 That attitude may be WHY you can't do it very well - (ben_tilly) - (1) - May 12, 2005, 12:19:13 PM EDT
                     Well, it's been 2 years since I worked with good QA people -NT - (Arkadiy) - May 14, 2005, 03:37:30 PM EDT
             Sorry, dupe -NT - (Arkadiy) - May 12, 2005, 07:30:38 AM EDT
         It seems to just roll off your tongue... - (folkert) - April 29, 2005, 11:04:02 PM EDT
         Sounds like a nice challenge. Congrats! -NT - (Another Scott) - April 29, 2005, 11:09:23 PM EDT
         On a deal like that - (tuberculosis) - April 30, 2005, 12:08:48 AM EDT
         So where do we line up... - (ben_tilly) - (3) - April 30, 2005, 12:57:32 AM EDT
             Can't happen - (drewk) - (2) - April 30, 2005, 07:44:42 AM EDT
                 Here's what I think you're expecting... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 30, 2005, 02:07:42 PM EDT
                     Heh, good point - (drewk) - April 30, 2005, 03:25:52 PM EDT
         Confession is good for the soul. :) - (a6l6e6x) - April 30, 2005, 08:36:06 AM EDT

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