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New Have you seen things others didn't and they all changed?
I am very interested in this process Todd.

I really like your layout. Are you able to share any "formal things" about the whole process? I am not asking for Precious, Sensitive or Critical Data.

What I am looking for is the "Forms" that must be filled out during the process before the group chat. Not for the forms, but for the data that is important to the process.

I know this sounds like I am being lazy, I just want to compare things to the way I am going to do things pretty soon. I got a good PFY out of the testing process I use. (Though I had little choice about the "who" in the matter, this time.)




P.S. My PFY is doing Great. He is/was a pure Windows guy, not a zealot though, he hates them as much as I do (GREAT!). Never played with anything but Windows. He is now using putty and the CLI interface to do support our users. I tell the people to go ask for him to fix it, they do, he comes to me when he can't figure it out (like not knowing howto setup a vacation message for a user, versus changing their password at their request).

Most people are immunized, against knowledge transfer. My PFY is not immunized against knowledge transfer, this is good, knowledge is contagious.

*GADS* This is heaven, I absolutely enjoy imparting knowledge, through giving them enough info to figure it out, but not the answer. I'll sit and watch them. Seeing that Light turn on is an awesome sight to behold.
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New It happens
There's not much data involved - your vote and a writeup of your impressions are all you contribute. You get the guy's resume prior to the interview. The hiring manager will assign areas of coverage prior to the in-person interviews. There is a set of core qualities in a potential hire that are enumerated in policy and looked for.

It does happen that all but one will be positive on someone and the naysayer will make some points about shortcomings he spotted and others will realize that they were seeing clues to this gap at the time but did not recognize it.

I've never seen multiple negatives won over though.

I reckon I devote 2-8 hours a week to hiring, but since last September I've only participated in extending 2 offers.



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
     Yes, I'm using an alias. - (forced2b_phb) - (21)
         Too many details, people will figure this out - (ben_tilly)
         did he pass a drug test? -NT - (boxley)
         Dump him and move on. - (Silverlock)
         If I did half the stuff you listed... - (inthane-chan)
         He doesn't fit in your organization. - (Another Scott)
         Re: Yes, I'm using an alias. - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             the windows and netware comment - (boxley)
         He's a moron. - (pwhysall)
         Fire him and working on your hiring skills - (dws)
         I am with the consensus. - (folkert)
         Or you could develop a corrective action plan for him - (bionerd) - (4)
             It industry is ripe with these kinds of problems. - (folkert)
             It is best not to warn before a potential firing - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 Concur, His "best" days (with you) are behind him. -NT - (jbrabeck)
             Sure, he /could/ do that. - (pwhysall)
         Lose him - (broomberg) - (1)
             rubber stamp that post -NT - (boxley)
         Dump him - (tuberculosis) - (3)
             Have you seen things others didn't and they all changed? - (folkert) - (1)
                 It happens - (tuberculosis)
             Something like that even works for a small group - (ben_tilly)

History shows again and again how Nature points out the folly of men.
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