Or you could develop a corrective action plan for him

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Post #203,252 by bionerd 4/13/05 4:54:47 PM Reply	Or you could develop a corrective action plan for him If he doesnt meet the requirements set up in the plan within a given time frame, you make it a condition in the plan that he be let go.
Post #203,253 by folkert 4/13/05 5:02:09 PM Reply	It industry is ripe with these kinds of problems. Corrective plan, doesn't do any good. They just switch to stealth mode. Plus a Corrective action tends to make things worse not better, I have been through a few Corrective Actions... some justified, some not. Most people that actually ask, are trying to cover for the stuff that actually disappears. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #203,256 by ben_tilly 4/13/05 5:19:29 PM Reply	It is best not to warn before a potential firing People who think that they are going to be let go may say, "Well they are going to fire me anyways, what else are they going to do?" And then cause serious damage. I'd be willing to be that not only is he not qualified for the job, but he knows that he can't do the job. Furthermore he's done things that indicate a serious lack of ethics already, so dropping below his current idea of "standards" is not where you want him to go. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #203,257 by jbrabeck 4/13/05 5:33:51 PM Reply	Concur, His "best" days (with you) are behind him. A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #203,260 by pwhysall 4/13/05 6:08:37 PM Reply	Sure, he /could/ do that. But this guy is clearly such a bad fit (c'mon. Selling company equipment on eBay is a good idea?) that he just has to go before he causes a real problem. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!

Yes, I'm using an alias. - (forced2b_phb) - (21) - April 13, 2005, 02:15:32 PM EDT

Too many details, people will figure this out - (ben_tilly) - April 13, 2005, 02:27:48 PM EDT

did he pass a drug test? -NT - (boxley) - April 13, 2005, 02:31:12 PM EDT

Dump him and move on. - (Silverlock) - April 13, 2005, 03:02:10 PM EDT

If I did half the stuff you listed... - (inthane-chan) - April 13, 2005, 03:40:33 PM EDT

He doesn't fit in your organization. - (Another Scott) - April 13, 2005, 03:52:06 PM EDT

Re: Yes, I'm using an alias. - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - April 13, 2005, 04:00:52 PM EDT

the windows and netware comment - (boxley) - April 13, 2005, 04:18:43 PM EDT

He's a moron. - (pwhysall) - April 13, 2005, 04:06:28 PM EDT

Fire him and working on your hiring skills - (dws) - April 13, 2005, 04:48:44 PM EDT

I am with the consensus. - (folkert) - April 13, 2005, 04:52:37 PM EDT

Or you could develop a corrective action plan for him - (bionerd) - (4) - April 13, 2005, 04:54:47 PM EDT

It industry is ripe with these kinds of problems. - (folkert) - April 13, 2005, 05:02:09 PM EDT

It is best not to warn before a potential firing - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 13, 2005, 05:19:29 PM EDT

Concur, His "best" days (with you) are behind him. -NT - (jbrabeck) - April 13, 2005, 05:33:51 PM EDT

Sure, he /could/ do that. - (pwhysall) - April 13, 2005, 06:08:37 PM EDT

Lose him - (broomberg) - (1) - April 13, 2005, 09:47:06 PM EDT

rubber stamp that post -NT - (boxley) - April 13, 2005, 09:48:55 PM EDT

Dump him - (tuberculosis) - (3) - April 14, 2005, 03:23:33 AM EDT

Have you seen things others didn't and they all changed? - (folkert) - (1) - April 14, 2005, 11:34:29 AM EDT

It happens - (tuberculosis) - April 14, 2005, 12:03:14 PM EDT

Something like that even works for a small group - (ben_tilly) - April 14, 2005, 04:22:07 PM EDT

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