Clearly you do not accept Paul's authority.

Post #2,009 by static 7/17/01 2:10:37 AM Reply	Clearly you do not accept Paul's authority. And I can see you've already had extensive discussions about that, so you'll have to excuse me if I seem ignorant of their content (well, I am, since I hadn't followed them). However, you raise another interesting point: Why do you call Paul a prophet? Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #2,034 by boxley 7/17/01 10:00:36 AM Reply	I dont since he fails the test of a "true" prophet. He is not consistant, he breaks mosaic law (only matters if he was a jew) Jesus was a prophet since he did miracles, did not advocate breaking the law and preached the things all prophets preach, live G_d's word do not just give the appearance of G_d's word. Now Paul(Saul) claims to interpret Jesus in an entirely different manner than the rest of the Aposles and faught with them about it and won. Christians say he was correct and the others were not. That is fine. Al I can say by the prophet rule laid down by G_d is that he is false. IMHO thanx, bill can I have my ones and zeros back?
Post #2,141 by static 7/17/01 8:56:55 PM Reply	But you didn't answer my question. Who is calling Paul a "prophet"? I'm not. Nor does the Christian teaching I subscribe to: we call him an Apostle. So why the concern over his failing the "prophet test"? Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #2,167 by boxley 7/17/01 11:14:21 PM Reply	sorry missed the question we have prophets that give us directions and a messiah that will signify (something or other) we dont have apostles that is a gentile thing devised since the NT. We had prophets(leaders) until Saul where we whined for a King like the other heathens. Since we are human we wanted a warrior leader liked the clowns around us. G_d was indulgent because he needed to teach us a lesson. We are held to a different standard. I dont know what "authority" Paul/Saul had as it was self imposed and followed in defiance of G_d's word but since it is mostly Gentiles that follow him. It really has no bearing to me so should not expound too much on it. G_ds plan for the Gentiles is not really addressed in the OT and between the Koran, NT and the other religions the aim is the same. Dont wear yer religion on yer sleeve but in yer heart. Big deeds always beat big words and give the other feller yer shirt if he needs it more than you but dont fsck with anyone. Feerless brought up a subject that some Christians beleive G_d's covenant with the Jews was broken with the death of Jesus(and he noted that he wasnt one with them) G_d doesnt break his word or he wouldnt be G_d. The Christian notion of G_d will condemn all those who do not recognise as G_d Jesus forget a couple of things. The ten commandments for one. There is one God (except for his son who called on the cross for his father but no one can see his face but him and some ghost is the same guy) cant go there. I know that there is an explanation from (Paul) of course that explains all that but 1 is one, no one knows his name and if he has a ghost the OT doenst mention it. I am glad that you are a beleiving gentile, that gives you a moral code of some kind to live by just like ash has one. The scary people are the animal folk who beleive nothing and have no internal fair play system or ethics. thanx, bill thanx, bill_ can I have my ones and zeros back?

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