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Post #197,163
by pwhysall
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3/4/05 7:36:58 AM
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New Because that's what NeXTStep did...
...and WindowMaker is the nearest thing to a complete implementation of GNUStep (the Free version of NeXTStep) that exists.

Personally, I think NeXTStep only looks nice when it's running on one of those dandy NeXT computers; it looks good from a distance but when you get up close it's very 1995. Of course, one of the problems is that there areally aren't all that many applications that run within the GNUStep framework; there are a few, but there's no GNUStep browser, for example[0]. However, one benefit of coding to GNUStep is that you can trivially modify your application to compile on OS X.
[0] Unless, of course, someone wrapped Gecko up in GNUStep when I wasn't looking.

Peter
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Post #197,169
by CRConrad
3/4/05 8:33:33 AM
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New Sigh... So why did THEY do that, then? A: Because most...
...most people are right-handed, I (to borrow an expression) wot.


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Post #197,171
by pwhysall
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3/4/05 8:47:14 AM
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New I wot that your wot is wotful, I wot.

Peter
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Post #197,172
by Another Scott
3/4/05 8:55:08 AM
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New Werd.
Post #197,215
by altmann
3/4/05 2:11:50 PM
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New I don't know but ...
When I ran WindowMaker I would have the Dock on the right and have windows minimize to icons down the left side of the display, starting at the top. I think the default was across the bottom from the left. (Mac OS X has combined the two into one dock so you can't do that anymore.)
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Post #197,292
by static
3/5/05 8:25:18 AM
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New I really don't know.
But I suspect that if they'd originally put the Dock on the left then it'd probably be there today. Even for right-handed people.

WM has a Clip which functions a little like a dock but the app icons are local to each screen. The Clip is, by default on the left. I left it there and put things on it, too. The value of the Dock was that the apps were there in every screen. The value of the Clip was that the apps weren't.

I may have been more inclined to get used to WindowMaker's Dock because a) I'm right-handed and b) it lives on the right of the screen but the reason I choose to mimic it there has less to do with the fact that I'm right-handed than that I had gotten used to it there and found it useful and convenient.

Besides, because of how we read (left-to-right, top-to-bottom), our brains associate different importances and roles to things on the left and right edges. With the left-aligned text usually in use in applications, one's attention tends to be towards the left. Having the Dock on the right helpfully and automatically dissociates it with the main content on the screen. I'm not as convinced as you are that mere right-handedness can be used to explain such a preference. :-) OTOH, the vast majority of the population down through the ages being right-handed has undoubtedly influenced the writing system in use in European languages... (-:

Wade.

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     My Work Desktop. - (static) - (53) - March 4, 2005, 01:04:07 AM EST
         Let the beret commence! - (pwhysall) - (2) - March 4, 2005, 01:15:30 AM EST
             I forgot to say. - (static) - March 4, 2005, 01:25:12 AM EST
             Reminds me of OS/2 - (gdaustin) - March 5, 2005, 09:10:01 AM EST
         Strictly Business - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - March 4, 2005, 01:26:29 AM EST
             Hello, Andrew? 1996 called. He'd like his desktop back. -NT - (drewk) - (3) - March 4, 2005, 02:17:02 AM EST
                 (Yeah, and Borland wants its cogwheel icon.) -NT - (CRConrad) - March 4, 2005, 03:00:38 AM EST
                 Hey, if it's been running since 1996, why 'fix' it now? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - March 4, 2005, 07:55:38 AM EST
                     A-friggin-men. -NT - (imric) - March 4, 2005, 08:22:35 AM EST
         At Home - (altmann) - (2) - March 4, 2005, 02:39:35 AM EST
             That's a nice image. A really nice image. -NT - (static) - March 4, 2005, 06:22:02 AM EST
             Agreed it's a pretty picture. But IE? Don't you feel dirty? -NT - (Another Scott) - March 4, 2005, 07:39:37 AM EST
         You're right-handed, aren'tya, Wade? - (CRConrad) - (29) - March 4, 2005, 02:58:48 AM EST
             Could be. - (pwhysall) - (19) - March 4, 2005, 03:00:33 AM EST
                 How 'bout the sprog? This shit is supposed... - (CRConrad) - (18) - March 4, 2005, 03:04:12 AM EST
                     Right-handed. - (pwhysall) - (17) - March 4, 2005, 03:06:36 AM EST
                         Bah - *that* is hardly a problem, nowadays. - (CRConrad) - (16) - March 4, 2005, 04:54:51 AM EST
                             Scissors are easy enough... - (gdaustin) - (15) - March 5, 2005, 09:14:08 AM EST
                                 My mother's left handed, but bowls right handed. - (Another Scott) - (14) - March 5, 2005, 09:21:09 AM EST
                                     Uhh ... bowling balls aren't right/left handed? - (drewk) - (6) - March 5, 2005, 06:53:08 PM EST
                                         I don't think they are. - (pwhysall) - (2) - March 5, 2005, 07:16:28 PM EST
                                             They don't come with holes in them - (drewk) - (1) - March 5, 2005, 07:33:25 PM EST
                                                 OIC. -NT - (pwhysall) - March 5, 2005, 07:37:50 PM EST
                                         The holes are handed, the balls aren't. At least AFAIK. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 5, 2005, 07:25:45 PM EST
                                             For once, I wasn't being pedantic - (drewk) - (1) - March 5, 2005, 07:36:47 PM EST
                                                 Just teasing. I should have mentioned she had her own. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 5, 2005, 07:38:28 PM EST
                                     Left-handed pool cues - (Nightowl) - (6) - March 7, 2005, 01:22:16 PM EST
                                         That "Woosh!" sound you just heard, Fluffy... -NT - (CRConrad) - (5) - March 8, 2005, 01:52:38 AM EST
                                             Gotta better one than that. - (jake123) - (4) - March 8, 2005, 01:59:57 AM EST
                                                 Pipe stretching oil and left handed monkey wrench -NT - (jbrabeck) - (3) - March 8, 2005, 09:09:26 AM EST
                                                     muffler bearings and halogen fluid. -NT - (Steve Lowe) - (2) - March 8, 2005, 09:40:23 AM EST
                                                         Metric Cresent Wrench, Box o'scribed lines, Aluminum Magnet -NT - (folkert) - (1) - March 8, 2005, 10:54:49 AM EST
                                                             whats a muslim wrench a mirror and a hand gotto do with it? -NT - (boxley) - March 8, 2005, 07:58:21 PM EST
             Why yes. - (static) - (7) - March 4, 2005, 06:24:41 AM EST
                 Complete the thought: And *Y* is that the WM default...? :-/ -NT - (CRConrad) - (6) - March 4, 2005, 07:21:11 AM EST
                     Because that's what NeXTStep did... - (pwhysall) - (5) - March 4, 2005, 07:36:58 AM EST
                         Sigh... So why did THEY do that, then? A: Because most... - (CRConrad) - (4) - March 4, 2005, 08:33:33 AM EST
                             I wot that your wot is wotful, I wot. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 4, 2005, 08:47:14 AM EST
                                 Werd. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 4, 2005, 08:55:08 AM EST
                             I don't know but ... - (altmann) - March 4, 2005, 02:11:50 PM EST
                             I really don't know. - (static) - March 5, 2005, 08:25:18 AM EST
             I used to put it on the right - (cforde) - March 5, 2005, 02:26:09 AM EST
         Work and home, purty much Eye-Dent-iCal. - (folkert) - (2) - March 4, 2005, 09:20:35 AM EST
             gxmms volume control - (Yendor) - (1) - March 5, 2005, 02:04:39 AM EST
                 Ah-kay, explains why I couldna discover it. - (folkert) - March 5, 2005, 08:32:08 AM EST
         Re: My Work Desktop. - (SpiceWare) - March 4, 2005, 09:49:14 AM EST
         In XP, how do I get a picture of my desktop to post? -NT - (gdaustin) - (4) - March 5, 2005, 09:11:53 AM EST
             If it's like Win2k then... - (Another Scott) - (3) - March 5, 2005, 09:17:07 AM EST
                 ok, here's mine - (gdaustin) - (2) - March 5, 2005, 09:44:22 AM EST
                     Getting a 503 -NT - (drewk) - (1) - March 5, 2005, 07:01:11 PM EST
                         It worked this morning. Nice scene. I would guess SE Asia. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 5, 2005, 07:27:09 PM EST
         My work Linux box - (drewk) - (2) - March 6, 2005, 12:18:25 PM EST
             Cute logo. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - March 7, 2005, 01:52:54 AM EST
                 Corporate requirement, IIANM, - (folkert) - March 7, 2005, 07:44:45 AM EST

IANK.
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