[bionerd might enjoy]___The 'misandric' society ???

{chortle} An unwary goofus takes on my Fav movie (and other) [link|http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/13/PKGAB989LS1.DTL| critic] with this Rushmouth leading question...

Dear Mick LaSalle: I really like your review of "Elektra" and comments on feminism. We live in a misandric culture where we are all supposed to rejoice at women killing men. Hollywood, academia and feminist seem hell-bent on destroying manhood and masculinity.

Scott Nichols, Rochester, Mich.

Rii--ight. Mick blinks, rubs eyes and replies -

Dear Scott Nichols: No, my friend. We do not live in a man-hating culture, and I doubt even the wackos selling that nonsense on talk radio believe it. In our culture right now, femininity and womanhood are under assault, and from several fronts. You get movies like "Kill Bill" and "Elektra," which present paranoid, misogynist fantasies masquerading as images of power, and TV shows that define a young woman's worth entirely in terms of how well she's able to attract men. At the same time, you have ostensibly serious news shows questioning whether women are "really equal" after all. The goal of both sides of this crazy spectrum is to confine women to a very narrow set of options, as either objectified sirens of adolescent fantasy or sentimentalized keepers of traditional values. Either vision serves men. Both visions put women in a straitjacket. Here's a good rule of thumb: When you see guys in movies portrayed as sounding boards, sexual objects and helpmates, and when you see scientists talking about the limits of male intelligence, and when you see political leaders talking about rolling back "men's rights," then it will be time to talk about our "misandric culture.".

I do So Love a calyumnist of such compactness in Game Set Match..

Now let us hear from the Promise Keepers\ufffd Internationale. Oh Please!
Them uppity broads need a Firm Patriarchal Hand, the poor little deers.
(Now you Mich. guys have got Yet-Another-Scott on your hands!) :-0

Post #194,512 by Ashton 2/14/05 5:46:37 AM Reply	[bionerd might enjoy]___The 'misandric' society ??? {chortle} An unwary goofus takes on my Fav movie (and other) [link\|http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/13/PKGAB989LS1.DTL\| critic] with this Rushmouth leading question... Dear Mick LaSalle: I really like your review of "Elektra" and comments on feminism. We live in a misandric culture where we are all supposed to rejoice at women killing men. Hollywood, academia and feminist seem hell-bent on destroying manhood and masculinity. Scott Nichols, Rochester, Mich. Rii--ight. Mick blinks, rubs eyes and replies - Dear Scott Nichols: No, my friend. We do not live in a man-hating culture, and I doubt even the wackos selling that nonsense on talk radio believe it. In our culture right now, femininity and womanhood are under assault, and from several fronts. You get movies like "Kill Bill" and "Elektra," which present paranoid, misogynist fantasies masquerading as images of power, and TV shows that define a young woman's worth entirely in terms of how well she's able to attract men. At the same time, you have ostensibly serious news shows questioning whether women are "really equal" after all. The goal of both sides of this crazy spectrum is to confine women to a very narrow set of options, as either objectified sirens of adolescent fantasy or sentimentalized keepers of traditional values. Either vision serves men. Both visions put women in a straitjacket. Here's a good rule of thumb: When you see guys in movies portrayed as sounding boards, sexual objects and helpmates, and when you see scientists talking about the limits of male intelligence, and when you see political leaders talking about rolling back "men's rights," then it will be time to talk about our "misandric culture.". I do So Love a calyumnist of such compactness in Game Set Match.. Now let us hear from the Promise Keepers\ufffd Internationale. Oh Please! Them uppity broads need a Firm Patriarchal Hand, the poor little deers. (Now you Mich. guys have got Yet-Another-Scott on your hands!) :-0
Post #194,530 by bionerd 2/14/05 9:24:52 AM Reply	Here Here! And to clarify my position- I dont hate men. Some of my best friends are men. ;-) "I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
Post #194,538 by CRConrad 2/14/05 10:13:42 AM Reply	Where, where? And what's there? The expression is "Hear, hear!", dammit! (Think of it like this: Just what the fuck is "Here, here!" supposed to mean?!?) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #194,543 by bionerd 2/14/05 10:25:38 AM Reply	It means this "Come here. HERE. And listen to what I have to say" No? Then I stand corrected. "I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
Post #194,552 by FuManChu 2/14/05 11:13:04 AM Reply	Stand tall, then--you're not alone (it really is "hear").
Post #194,571 by tuberculosis 2/14/05 1:10:10 PM Reply	Where?! Where?! "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #194,673 by broomberg 2/14/05 8:32:04 PM Reply	There! There!
Post #194,728 by bionerd 2/15/05 9:51:35 AM Reply	Enough! Enough! I think y'all are enjoying this a little too much. [link\|http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhear.html\|http://www.straightd...ailbag/mhear.html] "I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
Post #194,730 by Another Scott 2/15/05 9:59:41 AM Reply	Obeying the Law of Unintended Consequences since 2001.
Post #194,733 by admin 2/15/05 10:05:43 AM Reply	Full ahead flank! Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #194,765 by FuManChu 2/15/05 11:18:26 AM Reply	Astounding - can't even pause to take a leak.
Post #194,770 by inthane-chan 2/15/05 11:55:31 AM Reply	So much din and clatter for so little effort.
Post #194,779 by ben_tilly 2/15/05 1:19:50 PM Reply	There is something brain-damaged about that. I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #194,783 by admin 2/15/05 1:28:35 PM Reply	We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #194,788 by folkert 2/15/05 1:50:25 PM Reply	cf. Amway - same phenom; effective too. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #194,791 by tuberculosis 2/15/05 2:03:35 PM Reply	LRPD Sez: Beavis And Butthead Cornholio Megamix "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #194,792 by folkert 2/15/05 2:06:09 PM Reply	Get the hell out of my driveway! -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #194,793 by tuberculosis 2/15/05 2:07:45 PM Reply	POW, right through the window, 12 inches of steel! "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #194,798 by Another Scott 2/15/05 2:24:53 PM Reply	Choose life. Choose LRPDism-spotting.
Post #194,799 by folkert 2/15/05 2:25:31 PM Reply	The LRPDs come from within, not without. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #194,814 by admin 2/15/05 4:00:25 PM Reply	This land was green and good... until the Crystal cracked! Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #194,815 by inthane-chan 2/15/05 4:12:40 PM Reply	For every action there is a reactionary.
Post #194,820 by folkert 2/15/05 4:28:56 PM Reply	Can anyone here PLAY this game?? -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #194,822 by bepatient 2/15/05 4:31:13 PM Reply	As diplomatic as an Italian politician... If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #194,825 by folkert 2/15/05 4:33:09 PM Reply	Did you ever see a monkey playing with a stopwatch? -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #194,828 by bepatient 2/15/05 4:35:16 PM Reply	And suddenly it occurred to me... ...where these guys had learned their tactics. They'd seen Beau Geste, and were copying the Foreign Legionaires at Fort Zinderneuf. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #194,833 by folkert 2/15/05 4:36:52 PM Reply	Specifically, they will not save the ship and crew, they will not win a stack of quatloos, and they will especially not get to sleep -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #194,830 by inthane-chan 2/15/05 4:35:48 PM Reply	do head.bang(wall); while(1);
Post #194,878 by Ashton 2/15/05 10:08:25 PM Reply	Re: Enough! Enough! As you've observed here (here) .. a little seed corn can spook the entire flock into Rabelaisian congress with the El Arrrrhh Pee Dee -- occasionally requiring a Hard Reset ... and a bit of Kahlua on the rice crispies. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cluck..
Post #194,887 by admin 2/15/05 11:08:13 PM Reply	Constantly fromaging the bitumogenous spandrels. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #194,911 by cforde 2/16/05 2:29:15 AM Reply	See if I care. Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #194,912 by CRConrad 2/16/05 2:29:59 AM Reply	Pilkunnussija.
Post #194,913 by CRConrad 2/16/05 2:37:31 AM Reply	"I have Mountain Dew, and crab juice." "Ugh! Gross! I'll take a crab juice!" [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #194,920 by Meerkat 2/16/05 6:17:06 AM Reply	Oh, that's why you look familiar. Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #194,936 by admin 2/16/05 9:42:31 AM Reply	Powered by The Meat Tree! Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #194,937 by folkert 2/16/05 9:48:32 AM Reply	ObModedLRPD: Mmm... flame-roasted Meat Tree... -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]

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