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Post #190,224
by JayMehaffey
1/14/05 4:08:12 PM
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New It is a fine line
It is a fine line, but it isn't the judge that brought it up. It was brought into the case when the sticker people set out to find a way to violate the spirit of the constitution without violating the words of the constitution.

Jay
Post #190,228
by bepatient
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1/14/05 4:35:54 PM
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New But I am less likely to...
...be upset about a school board that will eventually die off and and a legal ruling that will stick around for-evah.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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Post #190,246
by drewk
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1/14/05 7:52:01 PM
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New Other outcome would also have set precedent
When then school board tried, as Jay so succinctly put it, to violate the spirit of the constitution while not violating the letter, they forced the issue. They're trying to force the issue. As long as all the teachers "just know" what they're supposed to say, but there's no stickers in the textbooks, the majority might be getting what they want. But this majority[1] wants their position validated by the court. It's their stated agenda. Look for any sites advocating ID theory and you'll see it laid out plainly.

If they're going to force the issue to the courts, I hope the courts continue to do the right thing, as they did in this case.


[1] Majority of those who care about it enough to make a huge issue of it, anyway.
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     A Win! - (imric) - (52) - Jan. 14, 2005, 07:05:55 AM EST
         Um, ... - (mmoffitt) - (51) - Jan. 14, 2005, 08:29:18 AM EST
             OK. Get this. Get it right. - (imric) - (50) - Jan. 14, 2005, 09:00:45 AM EST
                 I don't think he does "get it" - (bepatient) - (20) - Jan. 14, 2005, 09:39:20 AM EST
                     No, he didn't. - (pwhysall) - (14) - Jan. 14, 2005, 10:34:39 AM EST
                         But his ruling.. - (bepatient) - (13) - Jan. 14, 2005, 10:38:30 AM EST
                             No. - (pwhysall) - (7) - Jan. 14, 2005, 10:40:31 AM EST
                                 ACLU made this point better - (drewk) - (6) - Jan. 14, 2005, 03:12:28 PM EST
                                     Thats a little better... - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 14, 2005, 03:57:52 PM EST
                                         It is a fine line - (JayMehaffey) - (2) - Jan. 14, 2005, 04:08:12 PM EST
                                             But I am less likely to... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 14, 2005, 04:35:54 PM EST
                                                 Other outcome would also have set precedent - (drewk) - Jan. 14, 2005, 07:52:01 PM EST
                                     Next time someone says "evolution's just a theory"... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 15, 2005, 03:40:37 AM EST
                                         *GRIN* -NT - (imric) - Jan. 15, 2005, 07:49:28 AM EST
                             Judge didn't say that. - (imric) - (4) - Jan. 14, 2005, 11:26:17 AM EST
                                 Assumes too much - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 14, 2005, 01:18:19 PM EST
                                     I must disagree. - (imric) - (2) - Jan. 14, 2005, 01:35:28 PM EST
                                         But the opposite - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 14, 2005, 01:46:26 PM EST
                                             Ummm. - (imric) - Jan. 14, 2005, 02:11:11 PM EST
                     Use the Source Beep! - (Another Scott) - (2) - Jan. 14, 2005, 12:49:01 PM EST
                         a simple sticker that sez "evolution is gay" prob solved - (daemon) - (1) - Jan. 17, 2005, 10:42:31 PM EST
                             Al punte - code words *indeed* -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 18, 2005, 09:36:44 PM EST
                     No, that is not too far - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 14, 2005, 04:50:22 PM EST
                     I see it more starkly - - (Ashton) - Jan. 15, 2005, 06:22:09 AM EST
                 Okay, now you get this. - (mmoffitt) - (28) - Jan. 14, 2005, 12:03:45 PM EST
                     Remember your Civics/Social Studies classes. - (imric) - (27) - Jan. 14, 2005, 12:51:08 PM EST
                         ps. Should you feel the need to respond to this (new thread) - (imric) - Jan. 14, 2005, 12:55:13 PM EST
                         I'd also ban Nazis. That makes me Evul as well I guess. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (25) - Jan. 16, 2005, 02:45:23 PM EST
                             Yup. - (imric) - (24) - Jan. 16, 2005, 03:07:57 PM EST
                                 Right. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 17, 2005, 09:09:20 AM EST
                                 You know what has always slayed me? - (mmoffitt) - (22) - Jan. 19, 2005, 08:54:40 AM EST
                                     ^ Sorry, this was intended for Religion. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 18, 2005, 07:08:23 PM EST
                                     Gee. I guess it's my Christianity that makes me say that. - (imric) - (2) - Jan. 18, 2005, 08:09:52 PM EST
                                         It is an opiate. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 19, 2005, 08:51:06 AM EST
                                             Yawn. (new thread) - (FuManChu) - Jan. 19, 2005, 10:25:46 AM EST
                                     Umm, point missed. "Godless" communism, eh? - (Silverlock) - (3) - Jan. 18, 2005, 10:42:49 PM EST
                                         <naive>Umm, aren't they the same?</naive> -NT - (drewk) - (2) - Jan. 18, 2005, 10:50:32 PM EST
                                             You'll notice I used a lowercase "c" -NT - (Silverlock) - (1) - Jan. 18, 2005, 10:53:50 PM EST
                                                 Yes I did -NT - (drewk) - Jan. 19, 2005, 12:23:48 AM EST
                                     Problem is... - (Steven A S) - (1) - Jan. 19, 2005, 09:07:50 AM EST
                                         And did not claim to be. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 19, 2005, 10:21:37 AM EST
                                     The problem with "Communism" vs. "Real Socialism" - (Arkadiy) - (11) - Jan. 19, 2005, 10:24:31 AM EST
                                         Unvarnished pravda! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 19, 2005, 11:24:34 PM EST
                                         "Human nature" - (Ashton) - (9) - Jan. 20, 2005, 06:06:30 AM EST
                                             Name me one philosophy that assumes - (Arkadiy) - (8) - Jan. 20, 2005, 07:55:55 AM EST
                                                 Taoism. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Jan. 20, 2005, 09:09:49 AM EST
                                                     Not familiar enough with the history of China - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Jan. 20, 2005, 11:09:11 AM EST
                                                         We have *lots* of experts around here - (drewk) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2005, 12:15:44 PM EST
                                                             For starters, I'd like to hear one of them speak :) -NT - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 20, 2005, 12:21:13 PM EST
                                                         "The name that can be named is not the eternal name." - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 20, 2005, 12:37:47 PM EST
                                                 By employing the very basis for the illusionary - (Ashton) - (2) - Jan. 21, 2005, 01:55:43 AM EST
                                                     Thank you for mangling my words - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2005, 06:37:42 PM EST
                                                         Ah well, rereading for nuance - - (Ashton) - Jan. 21, 2005, 11:19:50 PM EST

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