Assumes too much

Post #190,192

1/14/05 1:18:19 PM

Assumes too much

Based on what the sticker says, I think he's reaching.

And while I agree with his reach and the outcome...the way it was done is problematic for me...because it will be used to over-reach in the opposite direction.

There are times when I beleive the "separation of church and state" clause is not used as intended, but rather used by a small minority to actively discriminate against ALL religion.

And since its based (very loosely) on constitutional doctrine, it escapes scrutiny of its real intent which is discrimination. No better than exluding color...and you can see the extreme of the view from dozens of recent posts...the pendulum has swung too far...and this I see as a way to keep it swinging.

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Post #190,195

by imric

1/14/05 1:35:28 PM

I must disagree.

To imply that anyone other than those with a religious motive is questioning whether 'the origin of living things' involves evolution is FALSE.

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Post #190,198

by bepatient

1/14/05 1:46:26 PM

But the opposite

is to completely disqualify any alternative and/or any marriage of that scientific structure into any other set of beliefs.

It is not allowing gray...which, in the end, is what area this falls in, like it or not.

And MY issue is not this sticker being removed...it was a stupid idea. Its the fact that this ruling was such a stretch based on the crafting of the sticker's language...that this ruling will extend well beyond science textbooks.

It was done with the right intention, exacted the correct reponse...but in a way I fear will be abused.

Thats all.

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Post #190,204

by imric

1/14/05 2:11:11 PM

Ummm.

This was a book on evolution. The sticker wasn't adding anything to it, it wasn't fitting evolution into any other framework, nothing like that. It was only there to question the validity of evolution. Not the details, not where evolution fits in the scheme of things.

I don't see anything bad here.

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