Mike, listen to yourself.

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Post #189,959

by Arkadiy

1/12/05 4:59:44 PM

Mike, listen to yourself.

I once conceded an argument when I relized I was about to defend the internment of Japanese Americans during WW-2. I think you're way past the point where it's better to re-read your posts and re-consider your premises.

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Post #189,980

by mmoffitt

1/12/05 9:03:04 PM

Sorry.

I re-read everything I wrote and stand by it. I'm also not going to post here anymore in deference to right-shift issues, which I, myself, am beginning to have trouble with. Ashton's post in the other forum is a nice summary (and I think perhaps less inflamatory) of what I intended to posit. ;0)

bcnu,
Mikem

Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer.
(Just trying to be accepted in the New America)

"Kind of a Shame" - article - (dmcarls) - (163) - Jan. 4, 2005, 04:02:08 PM EST

Also linked there - - (Ashton) - (162) - Jan. 5, 2005, 03:47:52 AM EST

Right... - (bepatient) - (157) - Jan. 5, 2005, 10:40:02 AM EST

Ha! - (imric) - (156) - Jan. 5, 2005, 11:35:51 AM EST

Wrong. - (bepatient) - (155) - Jan. 5, 2005, 11:42:29 AM EST

Keep telling yourself that - (GBert) - (2) - Jan. 5, 2005, 12:22:59 PM EST

What evidence? - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 5, 2005, 12:42:19 PM EST

I have no evidence myself - (GBert) - Jan. 5, 2005, 02:14:11 PM EST

Oh. So Kerry bullied Bush. Bwahahaha! - (imric) - (151) - Jan. 5, 2005, 12:45:27 PM EST

Interesting. - (bepatient) - (150) - Jan. 5, 2005, 12:57:45 PM EST

Listen to YOU. - (imric) - (147) - Jan. 5, 2005, 01:53:59 PM EST

I don't think you understand. - (bepatient) - (146) - Jan. 5, 2005, 05:21:45 PM EST

I do - (SpiceWare) - (1) - Jan. 5, 2005, 05:26:14 PM EST

Not wrong. - (bepatient) - Jan. 5, 2005, 05:30:22 PM EST

And I know you don't. - (imric) - (143) - Jan. 5, 2005, 06:04:13 PM EST

The pity is that there will be. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 5, 2005, 08:17:36 PM EST

Well, you're meeting wrong people. - (Arkadiy) - (141) - Jan. 6, 2005, 10:38:47 AM EST

With her vote, she hates the Constitution more. :-( -NT - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Jan. 6, 2005, 11:35:27 AM EST

Thanks for continuing to make my point. -NT - (bepatient) - (4) - Jan. 6, 2005, 11:37:42 AM EST

Q 4 U. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 6, 2005, 11:40:16 AM EST

yep... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Jan. 6, 2005, 02:32:16 PM EST

Well they could have... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 6, 2005, 08:27:01 PM EST

I thought.... - (Simon_Jester) - Jan. 7, 2005, 09:23:47 AM EST

Mmm hmm. - (imric) - (134) - Jan. 6, 2005, 01:00:56 PM EST

Answers - (Arkadiy) - (133) - Jan. 6, 2005, 01:31:15 PM EST

Fair enough. - (imric) - (2) - Jan. 6, 2005, 02:02:57 PM EST

It's a free country. You're entitled to your own opinion. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2005, 07:05:22 PM EST

ROFL. Hate? - (imric) - Jan. 8, 2005, 01:19:51 AM EST

"lesser evil"?????? - (mmoffitt) - (129) - Jan. 6, 2005, 05:05:04 PM EST

Why don't you link to that quote. - (bepatient) - (128) - Jan. 6, 2005, 08:33:30 PM EST

Why would one require a 'link' to a tenet which - (Ashton) - Jan. 7, 2005, 06:46:31 AM EST

Time crunch. Edited for those w/attention spans of Mayflies. - (mmoffitt) - (125) - Jan. 7, 2005, 09:09:21 AM EST

Ahhh...so - (bepatient) - (124) - Jan. 7, 2005, 05:04:02 PM EST

Beep? - (imric) - (3) - Jan. 7, 2005, 05:28:41 PM EST

Izzat - (bepatient) - (2) - Jan. 7, 2005, 10:12:26 PM EST

..and some love their little dog, Blondi -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 7, 2005, 10:24:54 PM EST

PERSONALLY, I don't think it's relevent. to the job - (imric) - Jan. 8, 2005, 01:03:18 AM EST

So Herman's lying. Wait, lemme guess.... - (mmoffitt) - (119) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:08:18 AM EST

so we had a choice between going to hell and - (daemon) - (118) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:19:47 AM EST

WTF? Your medication getting low again? - (mmoffitt) - (117) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:24:25 AM EST

your implication of the tendancies of a born again christian - (daemon) - (116) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:32:36 AM EST

I c. But, I haven't found anything that suggests Kerry ... - (mmoffitt) - (115) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:39:39 AM EST

It's funny - (imric) - Jan. 9, 2005, 12:30:01 PM EST

I think you're making too much of that. - (Another Scott) - (113) - Jan. 9, 2005, 12:38:44 PM EST

That was Presidential Candidate Bush. - (mmoffitt) - (112) - Jan. 9, 2005, 12:46:53 PM EST

Some of the best people you'd ever meet are born again. - (Another Scott) - (39) - Jan. 9, 2005, 01:19:06 PM EST

Ahh, the critical statement - (broomberg) - (15) - Jan. 9, 2005, 01:44:57 PM EST

There are good and evil non-believers too. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (14) - Jan. 9, 2005, 02:07:06 PM EST

Oh, I agree - (broomberg) - (13) - Jan. 9, 2005, 02:16:49 PM EST

Wrong - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 9, 2005, 03:20:52 PM EST

It depends... - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:52:32 AM EST

Are you defining "true believers" - (imric) - (10) - Jan. 9, 2005, 06:03:19 PM EST

If the dogma includes hell - (broomberg) - (9) - Jan. 9, 2005, 06:43:17 PM EST

*sigh* "The Dogma"? - (imric) - (8) - Jan. 9, 2005, 08:06:45 PM EST

I dunno - (broomberg) - (7) - Jan. 9, 2005, 09:34:58 PM EST

"the difference is the true believers believe - (imric) - (3) - Jan. 9, 2005, 09:48:00 PM EST

link - (daemon) - (2) - Jan. 9, 2005, 10:01:59 PM EST

{chortle} - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 04:11:34 AM EST

Heck, even CRC calls himself Christian! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 13, 2005, 03:37:27 PM EST

Merely existense og hell - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 9, 2005, 10:32:58 PM EST

Ha! :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 9, 2005, 10:36:44 PM EST

Love. It. - (Ashton) - Jan. 12, 2005, 03:46:14 AM EST

Beg to differ. - (mmoffitt) - (22) - Jan. 9, 2005, 09:51:21 PM EST

The problem is your bigotry. - (imric) - (14) - Jan. 9, 2005, 10:18:20 PM EST

Pretty loose slathering of 'bigotry', - (Ashton) - (13) - Jan. 10, 2005, 03:58:40 AM EST

I call Strawman - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 10, 2005, 06:54:10 AM EST

bigotry: n - (imric) - (11) - Jan. 10, 2005, 08:38:02 AM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:32:35 AM EST

Oh Pshaw - - (Ashton) - (9) - Jan. 10, 2005, 05:43:42 PM EST

A+B+C=mmoffit, ash. Like it or not. - (imric) - (8) - Jan. 10, 2005, 06:04:04 PM EST

Re: A+B+C=mmoffit, ash. Like it or not. - (bepatient) - (7) - Jan. 10, 2005, 06:21:19 PM EST

Pope's OK - unlikely ever to drop a nuke. The others ??? -NT - (Ashton) - (6) - Jan. 10, 2005, 07:40:52 PM EST

Pope is very happy that you aprove of him. -NT - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 10, 2005, 08:09:48 PM EST

Remember the bumper sticker? - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Jan. 10, 2005, 08:55:01 PM EST

nuke all the unborn gay whales, revisionist stickerman you -NT - (daemon) - (3) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:04:36 PM EST

I got yer sticker raght cheer. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:07:06 PM EST

great I ordered 2, what kind of car you got again? :-) -NT - (daemon) - (1) - Jan. 11, 2005, 06:24:52 PM EST

On a car in Indiana, those will get you shot! -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 11, 2005, 07:03:31 PM EST

See 62232 and 65768. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:03:12 PM EST

Example - (broomberg) - (1) - Jan. 9, 2005, 10:58:43 PM EST

:-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:00:15 PM EST

There was a difference in 1975. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2005, 11:12:04 AM EST

I am not a born again - (daemon) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 06:19:09 PM EST

Re: I am not a born again - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2005, 06:23:08 PM EST

Unclear on the baggage mix. - (Ashton) - Jan. 12, 2005, 05:09:19 AM EST

Right. - (bepatient) - (70) - Jan. 9, 2005, 03:27:24 PM EST

1600 of our militia know he is dangerous. - (mmoffitt) - (69) - Jan. 9, 2005, 09:46:33 PM EST

Nice subject change - (bepatient) - (68) - Jan. 9, 2005, 10:03:56 PM EST

<sigh> - (mmoffitt) - (67) - Jan. 10, 2005, 11:19:24 AM EST

Thanks for clearing that up. -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2005, 11:35:21 AM EST

So those that do not believe as you do should be banned - (imric) - (59) - Jan. 10, 2005, 11:50:07 AM EST

Not at all. - (mmoffitt) - (58) - Jan. 10, 2005, 12:05:28 PM EST

Bah. Ideology Police? Thought Police? - (imric) - (57) - Jan. 10, 2005, 12:34:05 PM EST

Almost. - (mmoffitt) - (51) - Jan. 10, 2005, 01:28:11 PM EST

But only >certain< people. - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2005, 02:42:00 PM EST

Oh. Instead your dictatorship would be based upon - (imric) - (49) - Jan. 10, 2005, 02:57:36 PM EST

Reduced to its simplest form. - (mmoffitt) - (48) - Jan. 10, 2005, 08:47:00 PM EST

Maybe not. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:13:38 PM EST

In point of fact, you may be correct. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:35:18 PM EST

wow, excludes communists, hindoo's, muslims christians - (daemon) - (12) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:19:16 PM EST

You are killing me. - (mmoffitt) - (11) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:30:14 PM EST

ya sure you want to go there? - (daemon) - (3) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:51:04 PM EST

That's not exactly calling for it. More like lamenting. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:53:05 PM EST

you mean lamentations 1-5? :-) -NT - (daemon) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:57:52 PM EST

BTW, thanks for the link. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:04:48 PM EST

Oh Mike, Mike - (Arkadiy) - (6) - Jan. 11, 2005, 09:18:32 AM EST

I've never apologized for being me ;-) - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Jan. 11, 2005, 12:57:39 PM EST

As Ben pointed out - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Jan. 11, 2005, 05:47:52 PM EST

But you assume Capitalism == the world. And it doesn't ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Jan. 11, 2005, 07:04:23 PM EST

And you assume that this weary existance is "world" ;o) -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Jan. 11, 2005, 07:45:43 PM EST

I yield to the better argument ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 11, 2005, 09:51:14 PM EST

Tilt. Error 666: metaphysical change-of-scale. -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 11, 2005, 10:46:34 PM EST

Bull. - (imric) - (21) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:46:46 PM EST

Just watch ONE Jack Van Emp television show. Just one. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:50:40 PM EST

Give details. Quote fact. - (imric) - (4) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:00:05 PM EST

It's Impe, btw. Sorry. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:18:35 PM EST

Bah. Looking forward is NOT 'to bring it about' - (imric) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:45:35 PM EST

See my first 2 paragraphs of my reply to Ben. (link) - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 11, 2005, 12:54:04 PM EST

Rationalize all you want. - (imric) - Jan. 11, 2005, 01:25:56 PM EST

uh, sorry to burst your bubble - (daemon) - (14) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:56:06 PM EST

Never heard one. - (imric) - (13) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:08:01 PM EST

Enough to elect Dubya. And that is too damned many. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:20:05 PM EST

So he was elected to 'destroy the world'? Pfah. -NT - (imric) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:47:25 PM EST

If he was, he's succeeding. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 11, 2005, 09:04:23 AM EST

demographics - (daemon) - (9) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:38:01 PM EST

OK - that's 1 number. - (imric) - (8) - Jan. 10, 2005, 10:50:05 PM EST

Here's another number. - (a6l6e6x) - (7) - Jan. 13, 2005, 04:18:59 PM EST

And how many are urged to bring about the conditions - (imric) - (6) - Jan. 13, 2005, 04:52:44 PM EST

At least this one: - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Jan. 13, 2005, 05:33:44 PM EST

Oh dear...will lithium help? - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2005, 09:31:34 PM EST

(Seems to be only enough for the Red States, currently) -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 14, 2005, 04:05:23 AM EST

I predicted something once. After I saw Bigfoot. - (Ashton) - Jan. 14, 2005, 04:04:01 AM EST

Is it Evil to allow destruction when you can prevent it? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 14, 2005, 08:24:44 AM EST

if its time to push the button it gets pushed, or not - (daemon) - Jan. 17, 2005, 10:34:39 PM EST

Now there's a wrong-headed philosophy - (ben_tilly) - (10) - Jan. 11, 2005, 08:43:35 AM EST

No it isn't. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Jan. 11, 2005, 12:51:49 PM EST

And you remain wrong - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Jan. 11, 2005, 02:51:11 PM EST

OT: Branch this, please. - (pwhysall) - Jan. 11, 2005, 02:54:30 PM EST

The arrogance of youth. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 11, 2005, 04:10:52 PM EST

Re: Now there's a wrong-headed ... lateral arabesque? - (Ashton) - (5) - Jan. 12, 2005, 04:19:52 AM EST

The point you may have missed - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Jan. 12, 2005, 12:29:42 PM EST

I understand your point. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Jan. 12, 2005, 01:14:00 PM EST

Mike, listen to yourself. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2005, 04:59:44 PM EST

Sorry. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 12, 2005, 09:03:04 PM EST

Moving on ---> to metaphysics and The non-Spotless Mind (new thread) - (Ashton) - Jan. 12, 2005, 06:45:12 PM EST

he is a neoconn, just a little left of them thats all :-) -NT - (daemon) - (4) - Jan. 10, 2005, 06:22:20 PM EST

It's a ring thing - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 10, 2005, 07:11:37 PM EST

I am not a Bolshevik! - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2005, 08:51:42 PM EST

bolshevits maybe? - (daemon) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:07:13 PM EST

Sign me up ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 10, 2005, 09:08:47 PM EST

Banned how? - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Jan. 10, 2005, 12:12:57 PM EST

Executed as illegal combatants, perhaps? </sarcasm> - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2005, 12:16:08 PM EST

Nope, all we need is Das Kapital - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 01:27:19 PM EST

Nope. What is to be done? ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 10, 2005, 01:29:18 PM EST

Banned in mmofitt's dreams - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2005, 01:28:13 PM EST

Indeed. More is the pity. :-( -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 10, 2005, 01:30:20 PM EST

Just to clarify. - (Another Scott) - Jan. 9, 2005, 08:11:57 PM EST

No link from me but - (lincoln) - Jan. 7, 2005, 04:46:17 PM EST

Applause. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 5, 2005, 08:14:02 PM EST

If we ever meet at Beep's - (daemon) - Jan. 5, 2005, 08:19:39 PM EST

Sometimes a crumb falls... - (dmcarls) - (3) - Jan. 5, 2005, 12:27:27 PM EST

100% predictable.. a mere bagatelle - (Ashton) - (2) - Jan. 6, 2005, 03:23:44 AM EST

So true... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 6, 2005, 07:13:14 AM EST

Wow! a blizzard of sententious sonnets - (Ashton) - Jan. 6, 2005, 10:37:13 PM EST

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