Post #189,676
1/10/05 9:19:16 PM
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wow, excludes communists, hindoo's, muslims christians
Jews, green party and all environmentalists, black people, hispanics and native americans pretty much leaves Arnie or me as prez and that would take a constitutional change. regards, daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link|http://www.chstornadoband.org/|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
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Post #189,679
1/10/05 9:30:14 PM
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You are killing me.
Which communist, exactly, was it who said "we have to destroy the world in order to save it?" Now don't cheat and set capitalism == the world. ;0)
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #189,684
1/10/05 9:51:04 PM
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ya sure you want to go there?
all movements are by nature messianic: me, dunno if I heard it or made it up [link|http://www.internationalism.org/wr/230_lead.htm|http://www.internati...g/wr/230_lead.htm] "In the end, it is all the same whether we are wiped out in a rain of thermonuclear bombs, or by pollution, epidemics and the massacres of small wars (where nuclear weapons might also be used). The only difference between these two forms of annihilation lies in that one is quick, while the other will be slower, and would consequently provoke still more suffering" ('Decomposition, final phase of the decadence of capitalism', in the ICC pamphlet The decadence of capitalism). followed by a close one, regards, daemon [link|http://www.brightstarsound.com/world_hero/article.html|http://www.brightsta...hero/article.html]
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link|http://www.chstornadoband.org/|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
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Post #189,685
1/10/05 9:53:05 PM
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That's not exactly calling for it. More like lamenting.
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #189,687
1/10/05 9:57:52 PM
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you mean lamentations 1-5? :-)
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link|http://www.chstornadoband.org/|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
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Post #189,690
1/10/05 10:04:48 PM
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BTW, thanks for the link.
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #189,734
1/11/05 9:18:32 AM
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Oh Mike, Mike
You're so exposing yourself...
Original:
Du passe faisons table rase Foules, esclaves, debout, debout Le monde va changer de base Nous ne sommes rien, soyons tout
Literary translation:
Never more traditions' chains shall bind us Arise ye toilers no more in thrall The earth shall rise on new foundations We are but naught we shall be all.
Word-by-word translation (someone with better French, help me out here)
Du passe faisons table rase We make "tabula rasa" of the past
Foules, esclaves, debout, debout Masses, slaves, arise, arise!
Le monde va changer de base The world is changing its foundation
Nous ne sommes rien, soyons tout We are nothing, shall be all.
Back-translation from the Russian version (and before you say that it was tainted by "real socilism" - it has not changed since early 20th century, or late 19th AFAIK.
We shall destroy the entire world of violence To its foundations, and then We shal build our own, our new world. He who was nothing, shall be all.
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- I was involuntarily self-promoted into management.
[link|http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484|Richard Stallman]
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Post #189,770
1/11/05 12:57:39 PM
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I've never apologized for being me ;-)
But the kind of "destruction" spoken about in your post is not the all encompassing "killing everyone on the planet" kind of destruction the fundies speak of and look forward to.
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #189,830
1/11/05 5:47:52 PM
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As Ben pointed out
"fundies" are not eager to do the destruction with their own hands. While your "workers" are.
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- I was involuntarily self-promoted into management.
[link|http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484|Richard Stallman]
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Post #189,856
1/11/05 7:04:23 PM
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But you assume Capitalism == the world. And it doesn't ;0)
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #189,866
1/11/05 7:45:43 PM
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And you assume that this weary existance is "world" ;o)
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- I was involuntarily self-promoted into management.
[link|http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484|Richard Stallman]
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Post #189,873
1/11/05 9:51:14 PM
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I yield to the better argument ;0)
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #189,883
1/11/05 10:46:34 PM
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Tilt. Error 666: metaphysical change-of-scale.
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