No...that was NOT my response.

Post #18,647 by bepatient 11/17/01 4:52:39 PM Reply	No...that was NOT my response. BeeP's response to my criticism: ~Show me your better (economic) model (!) Tinker with the Status Quo.. a little more !! {sigh} That was most decidedly not my response. My challenge was... How do you propose that the human race save itself, support itself, continue to exist without some formal aspect of commerce and governance? I'd say thats as far from "tinkering" with the status quo there is. Thats asking you to explain...(en anglais, s'il vous plait) this >ideal< that you have that you continually >sigh< about me not understanding. Then..we can debate a plan to take us there...or at least debate its possibility of existance. But to continually play the critic to my posts without >EVER< offering any alternative but to sigh at my lack of understanding and my decided lack of application of my intellectual capacity is getting pretty fucking old. Lets talk about what >you< want...ok? Thoughts, ambitions, etc...what is it that we are doing wrong that your ideal would make right? What do we need to do to feed everyone, cloth everyone, educate everyone and allow everyone to persue those things wwhcih will keep them happy 24/7/52/100? Until you can offer me an alternative to even discuss...I'd say critiquing my thoughts on how to fix what we have is a tad premature, no? You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #18,650 by Ashton 11/17/01 5:45:25 PM Reply	I'll concede your phrasing there. And raise you. Since it Was your phrasing there. :-) I'll split the labor with you, of playing Rousseau (Anglais ou Franc\ufffdise, un peu?). I'd think we'd have to ~agree first on the dimensions and some specifics of: what IS 'wrong' / dysfunctional now - before riding off in all philosophical directions toward YAN ---> Utopia. (After having perused the sourcebook on Dystopias, in recent weeks - I know better Why I do not believe in the attainability of Models (always appreciated why that Was folly, just know better Why, now)). Let's see what Your list of defects is, since you accuse me of assuming you have none. I cannot summarize the general case of The World and All, except as philosophical masturbation. Useless - too high a scale for homo-saps; we lack the referents. I never imagined you didn't have such a list, just - see your main posts as ever supporting, defending the present schemes and especially: Econ rubrics across the spectrum of their consequences. (Note: that is my impression of the content of many posts, not an opinion of 'what you might actually think' = that rarely emerges AFAICR) Tit for tat, oh weaver of Devils Advocacy from safe neutrality.. Over. Duplicating this at top, per request above, to escape any possible right-shift: Hey! a few others might have ideas in pretty little heads (?) It's too Big an issue to be left to mere Economists or humble Curmudgeons ;-)
Post #60,250 by pwhysall 10/30/02 2:00:02 PM Reply	Entropy just went up. And it couldn't have happened to a nicer physicist :-) Scott: Imma hunt you down and kill you twice for this :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #60,307 by Ashton 10/30/02 6:19:36 PM Reply	Entropy decreased. So then.. where were all them Solution Providers and their lists? Do I gotta work it All out fer youse guys? Can lead a horse to manna but.. Conclusion - *nobody has any ideas. Ergo, Entropy is decreased; Answer Unearthed: World of Duality remains in perpetual low-scale psychic noise (that 3\ufffdK (3?) microwave background). Build-from or die-within. * or is supremely disinterested in offering same == same effect. Ashton Solution Providers we provide the trough. customer must drink. :-\ufffd Hint: "We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they're elected. Don't you?" "Why?" "It saves time." -Terry Pratchett- via Silverlock

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