I'd forgotten the F-117 and The Bolts + ___*Just In*

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Post #18,153

11/13/01 7:38:50 PM

I'd forgotten the F-117 and The Bolts + ___*Just In*

If merely installed 'upside down' (must have asymmetric heads?) .. and that was enough?

Then what we have here.. with all this stuff allegedly flying off a slow-moving (<220 kts. was mentioned) airplane on initial climb-out:

Tail
Two engines
Wing! or part thereof

Again.. not at 450 kts, but - slow; much less environmental forces to contend with.

..what we have here is One Mystery, which I hope we get more than dumbed-down censored info about. Surely an analysis of the ground locations + other data will confirm (or deny) most of these allegations. Though some parts went into water / some of those? most of those? were recovered. Unusually then - an over-land crash with scorched parts available.

HOW does an airplane disintegrate in such a way? Even sabotage -- would / could any sociopath loosen bolts or ___ *in so many places* when any one would accomplish the aim?

Just In: (NPR news blurb)

Engines relatively intact.
No sign of birds as proximate cause.
Rattling sound (heard on recorder?) just before crash.
Report reiterates in-air separation of BOTH engines!
(Wing not specif. mentioned)

???

Post #18,155

11/13/01 8:14:21 PM

a cargo jet dropped an engine a few blocks from my house in

Alaska a few years ago, it was 4 minutes into the flight and power had been just cut back. Perhaps a similar thing while 120 seconds into the flight and under full power would cartwheel the plane.
thanx,
bill

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Another attack? AA plane crashes in NY - (bluke) - (39) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:06:20 AM EST

No inidications of attack - (Silverlock) - (26) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:04:30 AM EST

Didn't jump to any conclusions - (bluke) - (12) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:08:08 AM EST

goto dictionary .com, look up infer. -NT - (Silverlock) - (4) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:21:51 AM EST

Speaking of inference... - (marlowe) - (3) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:56:32 AM EST

infer vs. imply - (ChrisR) - Nov. 12, 2001, 11:05:18 AM EST

Nah - (Silverlock) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 11:32:02 AM EST

That one cuts both ways. - (marlowe) - Nov. 12, 2001, 01:20:58 PM EST

I see nothing wrong with title - (tablizer) - (6) - Nov. 12, 2001, 01:55:00 PM EST

You're entitled to your opinion. -NT - (Silverlock) - (5) - Nov. 12, 2001, 02:35:52 PM EST

He's not the only one who read it as a QUESTION - (SpiceWare) - (4) - Nov. 13, 2001, 09:33:52 AM EST

Perhaps I'm too sensitive. - (Silverlock) - (3) - Nov. 13, 2001, 10:07:50 AM EST

While a question can be alarmist, - (SpiceWare) - (2) - Nov. 13, 2001, 10:58:50 AM EST

Yeah - (Silverlock) - (1) - Nov. 13, 2001, 11:08:36 AM EST

Know how it goes - (SpiceWare) - Nov. 13, 2001, 09:00:05 PM EST

Meanwhile they declared a level 1 alert in NYC ... - (bluke) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:10:29 AM EST

Reports of an explosion before the crash - (bluke) - (8) - Nov. 12, 2001, 01:12:02 PM EST

On the ground or in the air? - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 02:02:40 PM EST

Engines can explode... - (Simon_Jester) - Nov. 12, 2001, 03:08:49 PM EST

Re: Reports of an explosion before the crash - (hnick) - (5) - Nov. 12, 2001, 02:17:05 PM EST

They serve goose on AA? I only get peanuts -NT - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 02:34:05 PM EST

This figures with your reputation... - (hnick) - Nov. 12, 2001, 02:52:33 PM EST

Investigators find signs birds may have caused crash - (bluke) - (2) - Nov. 13, 2001, 11:13:05 AM EST

I had this really weird image... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Nov. 13, 2001, 11:44:20 AM EST

Er.. that's \ufffd Alfred Hitchcock and we don't want to go there - (Ashton) - Nov. 13, 2001, 05:46:52 PM EST

Ari Fleischer would be proud. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Nov. 13, 2001, 11:10:56 AM EST

Here's How - (Decco Dave) - (1) - Nov. 13, 2001, 04:41:37 PM EST

Nah - reverse doggerel == doggerel - (Ashton) - Nov. 13, 2001, 06:09:12 PM EST

Houston Chronicle has info - (SpiceWare) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:07:42 AM EST

From first witness reports - (Samuel) - Nov. 12, 2001, 11:35:45 AM EST

And NOW what is going on? - (wharris2) - (9) - Nov. 13, 2001, 04:00:57 PM EST

I would imagine they meant that in a relative way - (Steven A S) - Nov. 13, 2001, 04:21:13 PM EST

Engines - (inthane-chan) - (7) - Nov. 13, 2001, 04:25:20 PM EST

Comments; flight data recorder found. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Nov. 13, 2001, 04:54:22 PM EST

Most unusual putative-factoid I heard: - (Ashton) - (5) - Nov. 13, 2001, 06:04:01 PM EST

It doesn't take much. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Nov. 13, 2001, 06:32:44 PM EST

I'd forgotten the F-117 and The Bolts + ___*Just In* - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 13, 2001, 07:38:50 PM EST

a cargo jet dropped an engine a few blocks from my house in - (boxley) - Nov. 13, 2001, 08:14:21 PM EST

747 Nose Bolts - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Nov. 14, 2001, 12:25:57 AM EST

Bolts. - (Ashton) - Nov. 14, 2001, 05:06:39 AM EST

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