Post #178,988
10/12/04 9:41:15 PM
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Beer suggestions?
The guy who makes the decisions at my favorite watering hole has asked me if I'd like anything added to the beer list. The couple I want are easy to get. Let's give him a challenge. Peter?
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Post #178,990
10/12/04 9:46:07 PM
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dammit goose something outa chitown. yendor?
red stripe is okay, most brit beers dont travel well. Biliken beer out of Belize if you can find an importer.
regards,
daemon
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Post #178,992
10/12/04 9:47:09 PM
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Red Stripe != beer
Red Stripe == fizzy yellow piss
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Post #179,000
10/12/04 9:57:57 PM
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They already have Goose Island.
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Post #178,991
10/12/04 9:46:35 PM
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Marston's Pedigree.
Cameron's Strongarm
Old Speckled Hen (WARNING WARNING FALLING-DOWN JUICE WARNING WARNING)
Theakston's XB
Deuchar's Caledonian IPA
Young's Waggle Dance (WARNING WARNING FALLING-DOWN JUICE WARNING WARNING)
Ruddles Best
Peter
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Post #178,995
10/12/04 9:48:57 PM
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only recognise old speckled hen
put your fingers down your throat, before you get your backup I will make you have one american guiness and one american newcastle brown, after that you will agree that brit imports in america suck
regards,
daemon
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Post #179,001
10/12/04 9:58:00 PM
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They're much better on draught
But yes, that's what microbreweries are for.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #179,166
10/13/04 5:28:10 PM
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still manke pee
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Post #179,005
10/12/04 10:20:12 PM
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Bottled Guinness?
Not a chance am I drinking that. It's sump oil in verdigris, or something.
Newcastle Brown Ale ("broon", "dog") is far too fizzy for me, and is in any case not a session beer; the strength means that you'll be fighting with the locals after the fourth. Much better taken with a nice meal, like a good steak and kidney pie with chips and mushy peas. For a real challenge, Weston's Old Rosie Scrumpy. At 7.3%, it's not hard to understand why one can "Go west with Rosie".
Apparently a dead rat in the barrel improves the flavour...
Peter
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Post #179,002
10/12/04 10:03:58 PM
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I bow down before you.
The list will be given.
It will be read.
It will be purchased. (One at a time).
And there was much rejoicing.
(Says the former Newcastle fan)
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Post #179,004
10/12/04 10:05:39 PM
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I drank Newcastle in college.
Beats the hell out of Stroh's, and it's got a nice kick compared to most college "beers".
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #179,035
10/13/04 12:07:47 AM
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Budweiser . . .
. . the real one. Sold in the U.S. as Czechvar (due to trademark battles) - it's [link|http://www.budvar.cz/|Budvar] in Czech and [link|http://www.budvar.cz/|Budweiser] in German.
Any beer that I will pay $7 / 6-pack is certainly no ordinary beer (note: Prussian content in my ancestry - "Prussian" is Teutonic equivalent for English "Scotch" in economic terminology and "cheap bastard" in U.S.).
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Post #179,040
10/13/04 2:03:53 AM
10/13/04 2:04:12 AM
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obScotchNit
Scotch is a drink. (it all tastes like paintstripper to me, but hey. The landlord at my local, Don, who is something of a connoisseur of these things, periodically proffers to me samples of his latest two-hundred-year old single malt, made by men in kilts in castles in the peat bog, in the forlorn hope that THIS ONE will educate Peter's tastebuds, but with no success yet)
Scottish is the nationality :-)
[Edit: I've had Budvar in Prague. A beer revelation, it is.]
Peter
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Edited by pwhysall
Oct. 13, 2004, 02:04:12 AM EDT
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Post #179,045
10/13/04 4:35:43 AM
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Technically correct, but . .
. . the expression commonly used in the U.S. applies the incorrect form, so does one present the form that is actually used in speach or the form that is correct but not used?
Perhaps you folks apply the correct usage over there?
You have paint stripper over there that tastes like single malt Scotch?
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Post #179,049
10/13/04 5:49:33 AM
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You should, obviously, use the correct form.
That's what it being the correct form MEANS.
Furthermore, I'd say that a nation that thinks its speech is called "speach" has disqualified itself from any normative function whatsoever.
HTH!
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Post #179,097
10/13/04 12:23:36 PM
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The funnest part of language evolving...
is watching it annoy people who think that they know how it is supposed to work.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #179,103
10/13/04 12:37:57 PM
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That assumes...
...that the language is evolving (newsflash: Google says not) and that Andrew didn't just make a mistake.
[Amusingly ironic parent subject line noted.]
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Post #179,114
10/13/04 1:30:47 PM
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I wouldn't say it's language evolving . .
. . because the expression "He's Scotch" as an idication of "thrift" has largely faded from American usage (though one of my clients, Thrifty Appliance Repair, does feature a Scot in a kilt as their mascot, it's a rather old business). Scots just aren't a significant eth over here any more.
Given the "incorrect" usage is archaic I'm not surprised it doesn't show up in so general a Google search, however here is "supporting documentation" from a more specific Google search for [link|http://www.mcn.org/c/irapilgrim/race02.html|"He's Scotch"] (third paragraph).
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Post #179,056
10/13/04 7:17:47 AM
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Google Has Spoken
[link|http://www.google.com/search?q=scotch|http://www.google.com/search?q=scotch]
[link|http://www.google.com/search?q=scottish|http://www.google.com/search?q=scottish]
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Post #179,050
10/13/04 6:20:44 AM
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Er, em, "Scots" I think
"Scots' Whiskey", no? which is scharrrtened to "whiskey".
-drl
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Post #179,054
10/13/04 7:05:15 AM
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Wrong.
And these guys KNOW.
[link|http://www.laphroaig.com/whiskies/index.asp?expanded=our_whiskies|http://www.laphroaig...nded=our_whiskies]
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Post #179,066
10/13/04 9:08:41 AM
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Ugh - that's sheep dip
Crawford's (in Scotland), Johnny Black, or Cutty Sark. From someone who doesn't think it tastes like paint thinner.
Push on the terminology. Both are in use.
-drl
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Post #179,092
10/13/04 12:11:24 PM
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"Johnny Walker's Black Label"
Is what you're thinking of.
Peter
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Post #179,176
10/13/04 6:42:13 PM
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Johnny and Cutty?????
One word comes to mind.
Yuck.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #179,235
10/14/04 6:58:06 AM
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I suppose you like Dewars - splork :)
-drl
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Post #179,239
10/14/04 7:34:11 AM
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Ick.
Single malt or death.
Jameson's single malt Irish is quite good...otherwise the lowest on the rung for me is Glenfiddich or Glenmorangie.
If I have to drink blended I drink American Whiskey (read bourbon).
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #179,240
10/14/04 7:43:51 AM
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If you like the Jameson's
You might try Redbreast. It's a 12 year old single malt Irish. Better than Jameson's IMO. It is a little difficult to find in Cleveland but it's carried in the liquor store that services most of the bars.
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Post #179,242
10/14/04 7:51:43 AM
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nit Jamieson's
-drl
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Post #179,244
10/14/04 8:00:48 AM
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nit: NOT!
It's Jameson's. And I don't even drink the stuff.
[link|http://www.irish-whiskey-trail.com/corner/corner.htm|http://www.irish-whi...corner/corner.htm]
-YendorMike
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Post #179,252
10/14/04 9:21:57 AM
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Wow!
I must have been really drunk when I read the bottle :)
Sorry Hugh!
-drl
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Post #179,241
10/14/04 7:50:20 AM
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I love Jamie
..but it's not Scotch - unless you include the islands that make it the same way.
To me, non-blended Scotch tastes like medicine. If I want a medicinal drink, it's Jaegermeister.
(My first ever whiskey was a pint of Bourbon, which made me very ill without hurling, making it much much worse. Thus even the thought of Bourbon makes my head reel.)
-drl
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Post #179,245
10/14/04 8:22:54 AM
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Oddly
I react the same way to Jack Daniels, but not Wild Turkey.
Go figger.
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- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
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Post #179,347
10/14/04 5:57:48 PM
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BP's lucky I got him the Jack then :-)
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Post #179,351
10/14/04 6:21:12 PM
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*grin* But he made a tactical error.
He showed me where to find the Turkey!
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- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #179,462
10/15/04 5:49:51 PM
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Yeah...its all gone now.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #179,175
10/13/04 6:41:30 PM
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Had the 15.
It was yummy.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #179,099
10/13/04 12:25:37 PM
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I dunno why but...
while I don't like whisky per se, I love Drambuie.
Go figure.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #179,105
10/13/04 12:39:04 PM
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That and B&B will get you FUed :)
..and make you extremely ill on occasion. Not recommended for a serious drunk.
-drl
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Post #179,111
10/13/04 1:01:07 PM
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I'm not a serious drunk, and don't intend to become so
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #179,115
10/13/04 1:35:17 PM
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That's not what I've heard.
Scott?
Peter
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Post #179,118
10/13/04 1:38:52 PM
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Seriously drunk != serious AND drunk
-drl
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Post #179,119
10/13/04 1:40:04 PM
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Scott will confirm: I'm an INEXPERIENCED drunk!
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Post #179,122
10/13/04 1:49:09 PM
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And I'm a cheap drunk...
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #179,124
10/13/04 1:50:23 PM
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And I'm just a drunk. Alcoholics have to go to meetings.
bcnu,
Mikem
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-Ted Grant
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Post #179,123
10/13/04 1:49:58 PM
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Not any longer...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #179,060
10/13/04 8:28:25 AM
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Re: Beer suggestions?
For something that's domestic (kinda-sorta, to us Yanks), go for Shiner Bock. It's produced in Shiner, Texas, but last time I looked, the closest place I could get it is a 6-hour drive to the middle of Missouri.
Others here have recommended Czechvar, and I second this recommendation. I've been trying some different beers lately, and this one stands out.
Also, while I was in NYC something like 2 years ago, I went to a place in Tribeca or Soho called the Belgian Beer Bar. I had 3 or 4 Belgian Beers there, and while I can't remember the names of any of them, they were all superb. I'll try to track down my cousin, who lives in NYC, later today on AIM to see if I can resurrect those memories a bit more...
-YendorMike
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Post #179,138
10/13/04 2:46:28 PM
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For a small handling fee
I could check into shipping a few cases north every now and then. Cans or bottles?
lincoln
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Post #179,186
10/13/04 8:45:46 PM
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Wha...?
They still make beer in cans? What's the point? :)
Color me interested. iwethey splat mikevitale spot com.
-YendorMike
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Post #179,074
10/13/04 10:10:59 AM
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Moosehead!
jb4
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Post #179,075
10/13/04 10:14:49 AM
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Skunkjuice!
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Post #179,077
10/13/04 10:25:19 AM
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That stuff is nasty...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #179,090
10/13/04 12:01:15 PM
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Re: That stuff is nasty...
Sheesh, guys...the best beer from the Land o' Hosers, and all you guys can do is denigrate? Puh-LEEEEZE! ;-)
Hey...I like it; beats snot outta the likes of Guinness. Any beer you have to drink with a fork is to be avoided except in cases of extreme emergency!
jb4
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Post #179,093
10/13/04 12:12:50 PM
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Re: That stuff is nasty...
This says more about your taste in beer than it does about the taste of Moosehead...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #179,100
10/13/04 12:33:12 PM
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Yeah... and it's FAR FROM THE BEST BEER FROM CANADA
'nuff said.
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Post #179,126
10/13/04 1:56:30 PM
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Well, Mr. Native Boy...
...Tell me what is better (and I'll tell you if we can get it here).
And, no, Labatt's doesn't count!
jb4
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Post #179,145
10/13/04 3:06:45 PM
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Conors. Big Rock. Creemores. Unibroue.
Those are all breweries, not brands. Pretty much anything they sell beats the crap out of Moosehead.
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Post #179,150
10/13/04 3:14:06 PM
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And there's a lot of crap to beat out of it...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #179,157
10/13/04 3:47:00 PM
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Hey, Scott...
<raspberry length=3, dampness=5>;-\ufffd</raspberry>
jb4
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Post #179,158
10/13/04 3:48:17 PM
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:-(
None available in the Colonies...:-(
jb4
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Post #179,223
10/14/04 12:21:40 AM
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Other fine Canadian brews
Kawartha Lakes Brewery (KLB) Raspberry Wheat
Brick Honey Red
Amsterdam Natural Blonde
Amsterdam Dutch Amber Lager
Cameron's Cream Ale
Northern Red Maple
Upper Canada Maple Brown Ale
Leave the last two in the fridge longer to produce a sweeter beer. I found that out by accident delving into the back of the fridge.
Trafalgar Raspberry Mead (not entirely a beer since it's made of honey but it's an early ancestor of beer)
Algonquin Honey Brown (off the market but Brick now owns it, a come back?!)
Since my favourite Honey Brown became toast I've tried many a replacement and found Rickard's Honey Brown to be the closet to taste.
And for gawd's sake, despite what they may claim, Sleeman does not make any premium beers! *bleah*
lister
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Post #179,348
10/14/04 5:59:09 PM
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Kukanee? Blue case , made in west coast, good beer
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Post #179,128
10/13/04 1:57:52 PM
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No kidding
Upper Canadien is far superior. Hell, Labatts is pisswater and it's better than Moosehead.
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Post #179,146
10/13/04 3:10:23 PM
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Just so you know
it's Upper Canadian; Upper Canada was what's now Ontario, and is English. You might make a case for Lower Canadièn (that being what's now Québec), but that would be Canadièn de plus bâs.
Forgot that one in my earlier response; it's MUCH smaller than the other breweries I mentioned, and is in fact sometimes difficult to get even here.
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Post #179,148
10/13/04 3:13:36 PM
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Got it. Won't make that mistake again.
And I thought it was one of the best beers I had in my many visits up North.
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Post #179,153
10/13/04 3:19:06 PM
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Next time you're up
make sure to look me up. I'm in Kingston, Ontario.
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Post #179,159
10/13/04 3:53:15 PM
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You're on.
I was half way planning a fishing trip for the spring. I'll have to get more serious about it now.
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Post #179,565
10/16/04 9:33:38 PM
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Anything from the Fuller brewing company
I quite like London Pride and their ESB but I don't think they make anything that isn't absolutely stellar.
That was lovely cheese.
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