Post #173,844
9/13/04 2:40:47 AM
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How many people work in more then 1 language at a time?
From the IDE discussion a number of people wrote that they are writing code in a number fo different languages. My experience (at 5 different companies) has always been that 1 language is used for the project. I worked on a number of Smalltalk projects, everything was in Smalltalk, and recently have been doing Java projects and everything is in Java (ok, there is some web, html/jsp/javascript which I don't do). Is that unusual? It certainly colored my thinking when discussing an IDE. My experience has been hard core application development and framework development for other developers to build applications.
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Post #173,854
9/13/04 6:39:15 AM
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Me
Mostly Perl and a bit of SQL.
Light shell scripting.
Then when I need a user interface a bit of HTML mixed with Perl.
Lately dabbling in VB and then C#. Death to the VB. The C# usage will grow.
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Post #173,855
9/13/04 7:21:01 AM
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Me
C++, proprietary scripting thingy, perl for makefile generation, Java for GUI, shell scripts for tools to be shipped with product.
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... a reference to Presidente Arbusto.
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Post #173,856
9/13/04 7:37:49 AM
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Me
C++ and sometimes Java for applications.
C for drivers.
Assembler for firmware.
Perl for scripting.
InstallShield for Windows installations.
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Post #173,858
9/13/04 8:06:23 AM
9/13/04 8:33:06 AM
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Ayuh
Java for the application.
JSP/HTML/Javascript/CSS for the front end.
SQL for the database access.
Shell scripts for the automated build procedure code.
Ant scripts (XML) for the build scripts.
Edit:
Oh, and Perl for some of the side projects that I do.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Edited by Yendor
Sept. 13, 2004, 08:33:06 AM EDT
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Post #173,865
9/13/04 8:53:52 AM
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Not exactly what I meant ...
in the context of the IDE discussion.
Ant scripts and JSP's I would consider as part of Java, Java IDE's provide support for these.
SQL - only if you are writing stored procedures, otherwise it is just more Java code in the app
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Post #173,859
9/13/04 8:21:34 AM
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ObAOL
SQL
PL/SQL
DataStage (ETL Tool)
A little bit of shell scripting
A little bit of Icon
And soon, SAS.
And, for my sins, I think I use a different editor for each one.
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #173,866
9/13/04 8:54:07 AM
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.0/
php
html
javascript
sql
perl
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #173,867
9/13/04 8:58:13 AM
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Used to
French and English.
g,d&rfc
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Post #173,868
9/13/04 9:06:10 AM
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'Bout time ... I've been waiting for the canuks to speak up
To say nothing of CRC.
And of course Peter, who seems to speak both english and american.
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Post #173,880
9/13/04 9:59:37 AM
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I speak both customer and developer
and can translate both to PHB and fellow sysadmins. Can follow sales if they speak slowly.
thanx,
bill
These miserable swine, having nothing but illusions to live on, marshmallows for the soul in place of good meat, will now stoop to any disgusting level to prevent even those miserable morsels from vanishing into thin air. The country is being destroyed by these stupid, vicious right-wing fanatics, the spiritual brothers of the brownshirts and redstars, collectivists and authoritarians all, who would not know freedom if it bit them on the ass, who spend all their time trying to stamp, bludgeon, and eviscerate the very idea of the individual's right to his own private world. DRL
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Post #173,882
9/13/04 10:06:07 AM
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:)
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Post #173,890
9/13/04 10:33:56 AM
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Same for me...same languages even.
Not in Canada, though....Beauvais France.
Tried Dutch too...but the folks in Amsterdam laughed at me and told me that I didn't need to learn Dutch...they all spoke english. (which for the most part was true)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #173,893
9/13/04 10:41:26 AM
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Je suis sur
Je vais bien averti du fait que vous parlez fran\ufffdais tout \ufffd fait bien. ;)
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Post #173,942
9/13/04 3:08:28 PM
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Je suis en train d'oublier tous.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #173,959
9/13/04 4:01:25 PM
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La meme ici
au moins, jusqu'au je retourne a Quebec.
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Post #173,869
9/13/04 9:07:58 AM
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Re: How many people work in more then 1 language at a time?
Current job - Java + ATG Dynamo's myraid propriatary scripting languages / libraries.
Last Summer - C++, Java, SQL & IDL
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Post #173,870
9/13/04 9:12:21 AM
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6
In order of frequency, more or less:
Java
JSP/HTML/XML
PL/SQL
Perl (build tools)
Python (helper scripts)
C++ (only when I can't avoid it)
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #173,899
9/13/04 10:53:05 AM
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Need to cut back
on the database side, I use mostly T-SQL. Got one side project that has a bit of PL/SQL (and I'd like to convert the T-SQL some day).
on the client side, I use JavaScript.
on the server side, I use VBScript and Java.
on the standalone applications, I use Java, C and C#.
on the helper scripts, I use Python (though I've been seriously considering moving to Ruby).
The languages that I am imprinted in are Pascal and 68k ASM, but other than some legacy support every now and then, I don't touch them any more.
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Post #173,923
9/13/04 12:00:04 PM
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At one time?
Only when I mix them. I have some ugly CGI scripts in the boneyard written in VB4 which produced Javascript which produced HTML. *shudder*
Anyway, for programming languages, it's Python all the way, right now. Since I'm mostly working on webapps, Javascript might be included. Markup: HTML. Query: SQL.
From time to time, I'll fix someone else's broken code in Java or Perl or C or VB/VBA. But it's rare.
The Sig: "Despite the seemingly endless necessity for doing
so, it's actually not possible to reverse-engineer intended invariants
from staring at thousands of lines of code (not in C, and not in
Python code either)." Tim Peters on python-dev
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Post #173,929
9/13/04 12:27:11 PM
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Rack me up as well
In order of frequency.
Perl
HTML
PL/SQL
JavaScript
Of the two I write the most complex code in Perl and JavaScript. In Perl I'm more likely to reach for OO, and in JavaScript for closures. Though I'll cheerfully reach the other way with no notice.
Cheers,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
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Post #173,933
9/13/04 1:05:12 PM
8/21/07 6:29:44 AM
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I think most enterprise projects
involve multiple kinds of text files/languages.
Like C++/C/CLIPS/Java/SQL/Make/XML in one project.
Not uncommon if you're doing any native code integration.
That was lovely cheese.
--Wallace, The Wrong Trousers
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Post #173,995
9/13/04 5:36:19 PM
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/me
C++ and C for the main-line code, assembler for (very) low-level stuff (embedded stuff). The occasional shell script and/or VBA (ugh!) for automating stuff.
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #174,015
9/13/04 8:37:23 PM
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Multiple languages tend to be de rigeur.
Back in my last job where I really got into vi, it was PHP code with embedded HTML and Javascript and sometimes even SQL. Even currently, most of the coding I do is in [link|http://yceran.org/qompose/|Qompose] which by it's nature involves HTML + Qompose code. It's usually when I'm doing Icon coding that it stays as one language.
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #174,201
9/14/04 12:17:24 PM
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Same as above
C++
Perl
Java
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Post #174,213
9/14/04 1:33:48 PM
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/me
English
Englih
Bad English
Ebonics (can't speak it, but can understand it)
DOH... knot what yew mentat.
I do not program, by choice. But when I have to in decreasing order:
shell (includes most things like: sed, grep, awk, tr...)
perl
pyhton
m4
tcl/tk
libtool (fixes for it botching up)
scant others
Usually, I make a shell to run everything. Do the rest from the shell only.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #174,221
9/14/04 2:03:24 PM
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Re: mythical languages
...I prefer Phyton over Pyhton.
:P
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Post #174,292
9/14/04 5:45:33 PM
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What are you talking about???
I know... one of those "mis-spellings"
"-D
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #174,294
9/14/04 5:47:23 PM
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Don't you mean myth-spellings?
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
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