You've apparently missed some things.

Post #16,940 by Another Scott 11/6/01 4:16:25 PM Reply	You've apparently missed some things. There's a difference between 1) Walking through a metal detector, putting a bag on the X-ray machine, (after being asked) walking up to a guard with a wand for hand screening and at that point refusing to be scanned in an effective manner; and 2) walking through the metal detector and (after being asked) refusing to be scanned with a wand and then continuting to walk toward your gate. In the first instance, you'll be refused entry, as Ms. Oden was. In the second instance, you'll likely be detained and the local law enforcement personnel will likely pay you a visit. Bill (IIRC) pointed out, regulations say you have a right to refuse personal screening so you won't be arrested for #1. You'll be denied entry, as she was. Your challenge seems to be closer to #2 than #1. If she refused to be screened, what would have happened? What would happen to you if you attempted to enter the secured area without being screened? Did this happen to her? Did she attempt to enter the secure area without being screened? I've seen no evidence of that. It seems to me, her actions were closer to #1. She apparently interferred with effective screening of her person, so she was denied entry. My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
Post #16,944 by Brandioch 11/6/01 4:23:14 PM Reply	Prove it. This is easily solvable. Just do what I said to do. No need to discuss it. Just do it.
Post #16,950 by Another Scott 11/6/01 4:26:52 PM Reply	Spell it out. Don't be coy. What is your specific challenge. Cheers, Scott.
Post #16,955 by Brandioch 11/6/01 4:33:16 PM Reply	I do not believe this. Yet the evidence is here, before my own eyes. "Don't be coy. What is your specific challenge." Is it possible that you have managed to miss EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE of that example of mine? Your fear........ - (Brandioch) - 2001-11-06 19:56:18 Or, better yet, do a search on the string "cops and/or FBI". Get back to me when you've completed the challenge. Fuck it. Just to save people the time and trouble of asking what it was again, I'll post it again. #1. Go to your local airport. #2. Try to go through security. #3. Refuse to be screened. That's all. Just do that. Just like it is claimed she did.
Post #16,964 by bepatient 11/6/01 4:42:01 PM Reply	You should... ...because I've given you 2 examples. One...a statement from airport security. The other, your very own Nancy Oden...who didn't seem to get detained...according to your dictionary term. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #16,970 by Brandioch 11/6/01 4:45:10 PM Reply	Reading WITH comprehension. No, Bill. "I do not believe this" was in reference to the fact that someone seems have managed to get this far into the thread without reading what my challnge to you was. The one you are afraid to take. Even though you keep claiming that nothing would happen. Your fear tells the truth.
Post #16,979 by bepatient 11/6/01 4:59:21 PM Reply	Sure.... so you can continue to ignore direct contradictory evidence in an effort to make me drive to the airport and attempt to crash security. Since I can read with comprehension and your challenge was to go THROUGH security without being screened...not deny additional screening. Not likely...since I have offered evidence...which you reject. SO I would say that the evidence is there for >you< to refute...not I. How far are you from Sea/Tac? You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #16,978 by Another Scott 11/6/01 4:57:12 PM Reply	The reason I asked... was because her case didn't involve her trying to get through security without screening. It involved her refusing to be effectively screened. If you disagree, please post evidence that she attempted to go through security without being screened. Until you can do so, your challenge doesn't fit the situation here. That's why I gave you the opportunity to clarify what your challenge was. Don's post of the interview with her said that she was at the gate when she was told she couldn't get on the plane. Was she arrested? No. Was she allowed to fly? No, she wasn't. Because it was decided that she wasn't effectively screened (or because she was against the war, or her politics, or her bad attitude, or ..., depending on your point of view). This doesn't seem to fit your view of what should have happened to her, or what would happen to me or BP if we did what she's accused of doing. I think this ends my participation in this thread.... Cheers, Scott.

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