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Post #145,075 by broomberg 3/9/04 5:56:09 PM Reply	Done He really is a Net God. His Unix knowledge was perfect (as far as my limited testing explored it). He was nice and personable. But he was lacking in the other 2 skillsets that I needed so I won't be hiring him, at least for that position.
Post #145,086 by ChrisR 3/9/04 6:26:22 PM Reply	Out of curiosity, what skills lacking guestimate it's probably on the db side?
Post #145,097 by broomberg 3/9/04 7:05:13 PM Reply	Perl and SQL They are on the resume, and he knew enough for some entry level manipulation. But he never saw the requirements for the job, the headhunter threw him at us. The second I started in that direction he immediately told me he didn't consider those among his primary skillsets. If we had a junior position open I could see using him there, for a slow ramp up, but not for this one. I'd say it would be at least 3 months of heavy supervision / training before we could trust him to touch any data, sucking down a senior person 25%. We filled the current full-time position. This interview is for a contracter to tide us over until that guy is fully up to speed. We can't afford 2 people as trainees right now.
Post #145,100 by deSitter 3/9/04 7:14:47 PM Reply	All this for THAT?? A stupid programming syntax? You went to all this trouble for a fucking SYNTAX? I understand now what is wrong with this business and why I must get out of it. People like you are so shallow you have no way of evaluating actual ability, so you hire the only thing you do know, a syntax, a piece of paper. I spit on this business and the entire idea of it. God forgive me for making the mistake of thinking I could make an honest living at it. I am being justly punished for turning my back on teaching - but that didn't seem honest and this did. How could I have been so stupid? I curse the day I ever drew the first penny from this miserable, horrible whore's work. -drl
Post #145,110 by folkert 3/9/04 7:40:45 PM Reply	What did you SAY?! bwahaha I still see you have much to speak, without much to say. Yes, I am not even reading your posts, becuase I have to expend MORE effort to, which I won't. And Yes, I'll be betting you are frothing about it being Perl and SQL being weak. You effing Bastard, you so damn predictable. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The guy who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #145,111 by admin 3/9/04 7:41:16 PM Reply	Quit feeding him, Greg. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #145,144 by ChrisR 3/9/04 9:36:23 PM Reply	That'd do it I've read a couple books on Perl, but I must fess that I don't really get what ties it all together. Every new trick that I'd see look like it was coming from the blue, without being related to any other tricks that I stumbled across. Not really a knock on Perl - lots of people performing lots of useful things in the language, but I just never got my head around it. However, I'm hoping your latter interviewee lands gainful employment. When it comes to Perl, my interview would go much more like the first candidate.
Post #145,151 by broomberg 3/9/04 10:08:11 PM Reply	The sample program was "interesting" He was unable to do it on the fly. We were pretty sure he was not going to pass the tech interview, and he told me he could not code it while I waited. But he asked if I could sent it to him and let him try anyway. Fine. I figured it might give me some insight to him in case I tried to place him somewhere else. He sent it back 2 hours later. It worked. It was OK designed. But it was obvious he had never read a Perl book. He was an Awk programmer who probably did an occasional hack of other people's Perl code. He confused single item slices with hash items. He did not use strict or warnings. He did not close his files. But he did error on open fails, and the code was neat and well commented, including closing braces. I suspect he might of done a bit of CGI. I wonder what level of effort it took? I might find some PL/I or mainframe BAL work for him.
Post #145,087 by bbronson 3/9/04 6:27:03 PM Reply	What, he lacks 7 years of C# expertise?!? (me.duckForCover)
Post #145,094 by boxley 3/9/04 6:59:12 PM Reply	late model linux n clustering? when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #145,096 by deSitter 3/9/04 7:03:37 PM Reply	WTF is that supposed to imply? Ooh! He installed Debian on some dead Presarios! Oooh! -drl
Post #145,113 by folkert 3/9/04 7:43:34 PM Reply	You are so clueless now... I really don;t want to insult Karsten and Rick... but Damn you are in the same league now. (Petty, piss-ant complaining about everything... taking everything you can and more. Then complaining about what you got for free) Just crawl back in your cave. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The guy who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #145,114 by deSitter 3/9/04 7:45:34 PM Reply	No wonder he won't return - fookerism -drl
Post #145,119 by folkert 3/9/04 7:57:24 PM Reply	Danny-boy Don't even get me started. And I am not the one that broke the camels back there you frickin "Clueless Wanna Be Mathematician". Lets just hope you do get blacklisted fromt he science/math realm. You have enough Ego and WAY enough priggishness to get you to be the darling Black Sheep. Keep pushing your luck here, It is a wonder you aren't working, with such charm and intelligentsia (il)literati spewing forth, why could they NOT hire you for your social skills? -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The guy who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #145,127 by admin 3/9/04 8:04:32 PM Reply	ENOUGH ALREADY. Sheesh. Flame forum anyone?? Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #145,131 by folkert 3/9/04 8:09:10 PM Reply	Wouldna mattered anyway. He would just kept going. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The guy who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #145,095 by deSitter 3/9/04 7:01:54 PM Reply	Ooh! He knew UNIX! Give me a fucking break. What's to know? "Ooh! He taught himself 'Mary's Lamb' on the kazoo!" Pardon me while I seethe with contempt. -drl
Post #145,108 by admin 3/9/04 7:37:57 PM Reply	Give it a rest. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #145,112 by folkert 3/9/04 7:41:38 PM Reply	Yeah, another brilliant frothing, I am sure. Give it a rest Ross, go outside and play with your wee-wee. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The guy who pushed me still has the whip-marks.
Post #145,130 by Another Scott 3/9/04 8:08:54 PM Reply	Greg, you know better...
Post #145,135 by ben_tilly 3/9/04 8:20:36 PM Reply	Greg, YOU give it a rest (new thread) Created as new thread #145134 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=145134\|Greg, YOU give it a rest] "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #145,154 by boxley 3/9/04 10:18:22 PM Reply	well actually I wish the developers around here knew unix would make my job a lot easier example. today I needed a favor from a developer that is writing the heart of an important app. Do ya have time? Sure just having problems with an EJB container (well having read the subject lines of a couple of Ben's posts in programming) I wheedle, help me out and Ill take a look she helps me out I look, the code looks ok, so lets run it and look at the error. She goes I dont understand? well the error sez it cant find yer shit so declare explicitely where it is C:foo/bar/eeh/I/eeI/oh run it again. runs fine, she goes "thank you. Ive been on this all day and you fixed it!!" told her she was just starting because a write once run everywhere would crap out on hard coded paths AND THAT IS A HUGE PART OF MY PROBLEMS WITH THIS CRAPAUD!!!! yes virginia, knowing unix IS important thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #145,166 by deSitter 3/9/04 11:01:39 PM Reply	Well I know it Get me a telnet account and tell them I'll work for half. -drl
Post #145,170 by Another Scott 3/9/04 11:16:24 PM Reply	Have you checked WUSTL recently? They're looking for a [link\|http://aisweb.wustl.edu/protohr/employop.nsf/c88e87999dc78487862567220080ca32/ccc9bfbb40a3ffa786256e4d0036f0ea?OpenDocument\|network admin]: Job Description: MAINTAIN, TROUBLESHOOT, AND SUPPORT A 108-PROCESSOR LINUX CLUSTER, FILE AND WEB SERVERS, 20 DESKTOP LINUX AND WINDOWS SYSTEMS, AND NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE. DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN AN EFFICIENT BACKUP POLICY FOR SERVERS AND LOCAL DISKS. CARRY A PAGER AND RESPOND TO OCCASIONAL EVENING AND WEEEKEND SUPPORT REQUESTS. ENSURE MAXIMAL UPTIME BY ANTICIPATING POINTS OF FAILURE AND LAPSES OF SECURITY. CREATE AND MAINTAIN DOCUMENTATION ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS IN THE GROUP. RESEARCH WAYS TO OPTIMIZE CLUSTER CONFIGURATION AND INCREASE OVERALL PERFORMANCE. PURCHASE, INSTALL, CONFIGURE, TEST, AND OPTIMIZE SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE. ADVISE ON PURCHASING AND CLUSTER EXPANSION. The Med School lists [link\|http://aladdin.wustl.edu/medadmin/hr/jobs.nsf/b4c5a322cf7b78cc862564030059c57e/8663d0bb423ae177862565fa0059058c?OpenDocument\|several positions] as well.... Good luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #145,171 by deSitter 3/9/04 11:33:34 PM Reply	Already applied I bombard them all the time for any job close. -drl
Post #145,173 by Another Scott 3/9/04 11:37:21 PM Reply	Good! Keep at it. Luck!
Post #145,179 by deSitter 3/10/04 12:16:11 AM Reply	would be a dream job No doubt it's related to scientific computing. Just in case it's the famous WUGRAV general relativity group, I attached my first paper :) -drl
Post #145,228 by boxley 3/10/04 8:48:34 AM Reply	they wont even let me work remote except for off hours emergencies. It looks like you need a travellin gig if things are slow in St Louis, hotlanta has gigs. thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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