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New Watch what you eat
your body is much like your car now, gets fewer miles to the gallon and needs higher quality fuel with some additives to it. Which loosely translated means you have to eat right and eat more often.

Talk to Greg B., he has diabeties and knows how to watch what he eats to maintain his blood sugar. Note to others, Greg B. is a local common friend to Nightowl and me.

Watch those snack crackers with peanut butter and cheese already added, they usualy are high in sodium and fat. Sodium can increase your blood pressure, trust me I have high blood pressure near stroke levels at times, you don't want that. Fat you want to avoid anyway as much as you can.

My advice is for you to consider buying one of those lunch boxes made out of canvas or whatever and use reuseable blue ice so you can keep food fresh in it. Store it in your car or keep it with you. Also get a fanny pack to keep food in. Greg uses a fanny pack and keeps beef jerky and other stuff in it.

Bagel and cream cheese would be fine for breakfast, but I suppose crackers can be subsituted. You'll have to experiment with food to see what works best for you. Just remember to eat something good for you. Soy nuts would be good, get them unsalted.



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New When is just as important
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New Re: When is just as important
Oh I agree. I added some snack reminders in my Organizer software program to remind me to also snack as well as eat my regular meals.

When is actually more important, my doctor said, because I can prevent the sugar spike if I balance it better, and eat more often. :)

Nightowl >8#
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Comment by Nightowl
New Re: Watch what you eat
your body is much like your car now, gets fewer miles to the gallon and needs higher quality fuel with some additives to it. Which loosely translated means you have to eat right and eat more often.


I realize that part, and I realize that I have to know more about "what" I'm eating. As for the eating right part, well, I was starting to do that anyway, because the migraine headache issue required me to eat three times a day, so for the first time ever I was managing to always do that. Since I was already logging every food/drink/medication I was ingesting, there isn't much more to add to that log except when.

Watch those snack crackers with peanut butter and cheese already added, they usualy are high in sodium and fat. Sodium can increase your blood pressure, trust me I have high blood pressure near stroke levels at times, you don't want that. Fat you want to avoid anyway as much as you can.


I don't eat crackers like that much. Mostly I eat Ritz crackers or the luncheable kind with ham and cheese on the sides. We got some fish cracker sandwiches to try though, although they aren't my fave.

My advice is for you to consider buying one of those lunch boxes made out of canvas or whatever and use reuseable blue ice so you can keep food fresh in it. Store it in your car or keep it with you. Also get a fanny pack to keep food in. Greg uses a fanny pack and keeps beef jerky and other stuff in it.


I have such a lunchbox, but I really can't go quite that far, as to carry anything perishable. First of all, my car has no A/C and resusable Blue ice is only reusable if you keep making it cold. I'm out all day often and not always near somewhere to cool it. I bought less perishable snacks tonight at the store, mostly for taking to class or church, as most of the rest of the time I'm home or at mom's.

Bagel and cream cheese would be fine for breakfast, but I suppose crackers can be subsituted. You'll have to experiment with food to see what works best for you. Just remember to eat something good for you. Soy nuts would be good, get them unsalted.


I also bought several other ideas to try for breakfast, Bagel sandwiches, Eggs, French Toast, etc. Breakfast seems to be the big culprit, nothing else, really. All my episodes were after breakfast and in early afternoon.

I did better today, because I was being conscious about it and I had no spells.

I have to admit, this is the first time information has scared me, but instead of comforting me this time, it's really done nothing but scared me. I wasn't diagnosed WITH Hypoglycemia, just told I was having hypoglycemia spells. So she didn't get all over me to completely change my diet, eliminate caffiene and all that, just watch it more carefully, which I plan to do.

At any rate, this is the first time it ever happened to this extent, (i.e. this past weekend/Monday), so maybe I can get control of it now. :) And she said that the headaches (Migraines) could be contributing to the problem, and vice versa, the low blood sugar could have been contributing to the headaches, so that's nice to know. Maybe changing my diet slightly will also help the headaches. :)

Thanks for all your input though, even if some of it scares me. :)

Brenda
Nightowl >8#



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Comment by Nightowl
New Breakfast food...
Bagels, french toast, pancakes... all made with white flour more than likely, which is pretty much a carbo bomb.

Eat whole wheat stuff. Don't eat white flour. It's as bad or worse than sugar.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Breakfast food...
Bagels, french toast, pancakes... all made with white flour more than likely, which is pretty much a carbo bomb.


Eat whole wheat stuff. Don't eat white flour. It's as bad or worse than sugar.


Well she didn't say I couldn't eat those things, she (the dr) just said to balance it with other things like proteins. So for example, the bagel sandwich I bought has ham, cheese and egg on it also, and the toast and pancakes have sausages there too. I'm trying to balance the proteins and carbs out which is what she said I should do some. Eggs are protein right? And Cheese and Ham? and sausages?

I don't even know what whole wheat stuff is, and I never liked wheat bread. :(

I used to eat cereal all the time but I got a lactose intolerance built up and can't handle milk much anymore. But I eat dry cereal often. :)

Thanks for the input. :)

Nightowl >8#

Edit: Added Cheese to the bagel sandwich list, just discovered that.
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Comment by Nightowl
Expand Edited by Nightowl Sept. 17, 2003, 11:09:16 AM EDT
New In general, whether the doctor says or not
White flour is a Bad Thing. Especially since you have issues with your blood sugar levels. Processed grain like bleached flour, white rice, and white pasta all cause a huge spike in your blood sugar levels, which is what causes your insulin to overreact.

As an example, eating a potato causes a bigger, quicker rise in blood sugar levels than eating the equivalent amount of table sugar.

Whole grains take longer to digest (and have more nutrition value, for that matter) and don't cause the spikes in blood sugar. The digestion process spreads the blood sugar out over time, which is what you need.

Which do you like less: whole wheat bread, or headaches, fatigue, and the other symptoms you get from hypoglycemia?
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: In general, whether the doctor says or not
White flour is a Bad Thing. Especially since you have issues with your blood sugar levels. Processed grain like bleached flour, white rice, and white pasta all cause a huge spike in your blood sugar levels, which is what causes your insulin to overreact.


As an example, eating a potato causes a bigger, quicker rise in blood sugar levels than eating the equivalent amount of table sugar.


Good thing I hate potatoes then. :)

Whole grains take longer to digest (and have more nutrition value, for that matter) and don't cause the spikes in blood sugar. The digestion process spreads the blood sugar out over time, which is what you need.


Which do you like less: whole wheat bread, or headaches, fatigue, and the other symptoms you get from hypoglycemia?


I don't know, Scott. At this point I'm mostly scared. She said to try balancing it out and see how things worked, this has not been happening before, only happened this weekend, and she thinks it's because I didn't eat so long between the meal and the next one and didn't balance out the proteins and carbs.

Rice is my favorite food, I eat it as minute rice and as rice you buy in the restaurants, and I've been eating it for years, it never messed with me before. I'm not even sure what a whole grain is. I eat lots of corn chex and peanuts and other things on the list that are good foods, so I guess unless this becomes a real issue that has to be treated a lot more seriously, I'll try what she said.

I balanced things out yesterday and had no symptoms, isn't that a good sign?

Nightowl >8#

Edit: When it comes to bread, I rarely ever eat any. I keep a white loaf in the freezer and rarely eat any. I have to keep it in the freezer because I eat so little bread that my loaf goes bad if I don't. Wonder if wheat chex would be a good idea to try?
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Comment by Nightowl
Expand Edited by Nightowl Sept. 17, 2003, 11:25:33 AM EDT
New Again, in general...
Whether you have hypoglycemia or not.

Whether you have diabetes or not.

White flour is ground exceedingly fine. This means it gets converted to sugar very quickly. White rice is very starchy (as are potatoes) - same thing. Both will cause blood sugar spikes which over the long term lead to type II diabetes.

Whole grains haven't been processed like white flour, and don't get digested as quickly. They also contain fiber, unlike white flour. Whole wheat bread and "wild" rice are examples of whole grain foods.

Balancing things out may help in the short run, yes. Eating better food will help in the long run, though.

I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm just giving you information that you (apparently) don't know that should enable you to make better dietary decisions as a whole, not just in reaction to a health crisis. The point is to *avoid* the crisis in the first place.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Again, in general...
White flour is ground exceedingly fine. This means it gets converted to sugar very quickly. White rice is very starchy (as are potatoes) - same thing. Both will cause blood sugar spikes which over the long term lead to type II diabetes.


Whole grains haven't been processed like white flour, and don't get digested as quickly. They also contain fiber, unlike white flour. Whole wheat bread and "wild" rice are examples of whole grain foods.


Balancing things out may help in the short run, yes. Eating better food will help in the long run, though.


I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm just giving you information that you (apparently) don't know that should enable you to make better dietary decisions as a whole, not just in reaction to a health crisis. The point is to *avoid* the crisis in the first place.


I know that, and I'm sorry I'm so scared about it all right now. But you can't just eat whole grains for breakfast either, she said for me to eat protein.

Mostly I think I'm confused... scared AND confused. (sigh). I almost had a panic attack over this whole mess last night, and I don't want one today either. I think it's all very new to me and very scary right now.

Nightowl >8#





"I learned to be the door, instead of the mat!" "illegitimi nil carborundum"

Comment by Nightowl
New Re: Again, in general...
Protein lowers the glycemic index of foods. So does fat and fiber. My point was that if you eat lower glycemic index foods to begin with, you don't have to mix things just to keep the blood sugar from spiking.

Incidentally, corn chex has an index of 83 -- it's one of the worst foods out there. White rice is 90 -- even worse. To contrast that, mixed grain bread is 48.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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New Re: Breakfast food...
Eggs (many), patty sausage (hot), hashbrowns, grits, toast, cowboy coffee, nitroglycerine.
-drl
New Yay! And british-stylee...
Eggs, bacon, sausage, fried bread (unbelievably delicious), black pudding, mushrooms, tomatoes, pint mug of strong tea.



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-scott anderson

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New My breakfast of champions
1 large mango
1 bowl of whole-grain cereal
1 vegetarian sausage patty

Oddly enough, I like it more than the ol' greasy spoon food I used to eat for breakfast - although I do occasionally get a hankering for hash browns. Must be the Irish in me screaming to get out.
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New what? no Kippers in there?
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New tasty fish
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New Re: tasty fish
Fish for breakfast???? Hehehe

I had fish for lunch yesterday, Shrimps actually. :)

I'm doing a lot better by the way, eating better breakfasts and snacking in between the meals, and haven't had another symptom since Monday's. :)

Thanks for any and all help in here.

Brenda
Nightowl >8#
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Comment by Nightowl
New Ooo, fish for breakfast...
When I stayed in Japan, a family I stayed with had a little drawer-oven-grill thing - it was about 1/4 the size of a silverware drawer, and on some mornings, they would grill a small piece of salmon in it for everybody.

Salmon, rice, and seaweed for breakfast. Mmm...
In that final hour, when each breath is a struggle to take, and you are looking back over your life's accomplishments, which memories would you treasure? The empires you built, or the joy you spread to others?

Therin lies the true measure of a man.
New herring eggs, poke salmon(smoked cured in seal oil)
pilot bread, black tea. Best breakfast,
thanx,
bill
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New I often have cereal for dinner :-)
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New Re: I often have cereal for dinner :-)
Me too, but it's dry cereal! :)

Nightowl >8#
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Comment by Nightowl
New Cereal with Orange Juice
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New Not I.
Childhood breakfast:

Orange juice, cheerios, and bananas.
In that final hour, when each breath is a struggle to take, and you are looking back over your life's accomplishments, which memories would you treasure? The empires you built, or the joy you spread to others?

Therin lies the true measure of a man.
New I've been tempted, but not yet.
My sister said she's had cereal for dinner a few times because that's what she wanted at the time.

OTOH, I have often had English Breakfast Muffins in an evening meal.

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Somebody save my life
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New See you and raise you

I've been known to have cereal for dinner at sunrise.

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some of the things I've eaten when I've stayed up all night and seen the sun rise in the morning.

Might be more apropos to say "munched on" rather than "eaten", in a manner of speaking.
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