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New AMEX
I only use American Express now - it must be paid in full each month.
Darrell Spice, Jr.                      [link|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
New I'll never use them again
I have an AMEX horror story - it goes like this.
While a roadwarrior for Platinum Technology I was expected to front all expenses and get reimbursed.
This resulted in a routine rolling balance of about $10k.
Upon my resignation, Platinum decided to be nasty and denied my final expense report as "excessive".
Leaving me without the cash to pay the balance.

So I phone up AMEX immediately to let them know there is a problem and to arrange a payment schedule. We agree on a timetable and I agree not to use the card until payed off.

Every week they call to tell me I'm delinquent, send me threatening letters, and every week I ask if they have a record of the agreement. They do not. I fill in the latest goon on the situation and schedule and they say fine - no problem. Meanwhile I'm paying them as fast as I can. (Platinum came through with the cash about 3 months later).

But they still trashed my credit rating. Multiple derogetories.

So they don't honor their agreements and they screw you if they can.

Fuck em.



Smalltalk is dangerous. It is a drug. My advice to you would be don't try it; it could ruin your life. Once you take the time to learn it (to REALLY learn it) you will see that there is nothing out there (yet) to touch it. Of course, like all drugs, how dangerous it is depends on your character. It may be that once you've got to this stage you'll find it difficult (if not impossible) to "go back" to other languages and, if you are forced to, you might become an embittered character constantly muttering ascerbic comments under your breath. Who knows, you may even have to quit the software industry altogether because nothing else lives up to your new expectations.
--AndyBower
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:22 AM EDT
New Get it in writing

Was the repayment schedule recorded in any document?

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New Tried that
But giant faceless corporation couldn't send me a letter, I sent them one but they ignored it.

You can't win. So I don't play.

As a result of this, I no longer loan money (front expenses) for employers. Its put off a fair number of bean counters but I just stand firm and say that if they want me to travel, they have to pay up front.

So far its caused grumbling and resulted in advance checks being cut.



Smalltalk is dangerous. It is a drug. My advice to you would be don't try it; it could ruin your life. Once you take the time to learn it (to REALLY learn it) you will see that there is nothing out there (yet) to touch it. Of course, like all drugs, how dangerous it is depends on your character. It may be that once you've got to this stage you'll find it difficult (if not impossible) to "go back" to other languages and, if you are forced to, you might become an embittered character constantly muttering ascerbic comments under your breath. Who knows, you may even have to quit the software industry altogether because nothing else lives up to your new expectations.
--AndyBower
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:08:50 AM EDT
New Welcome brother
Made IBM cut a check for some samples of a (electrical) "contact enhancing" chemical. I wouldn't accept their PO with multi-week settle date. They paid.

Anonymity - I think that's what brings out the execrable BS buck passing, from a random phone line within the great Corporate womb.



Ashton
New I like Discover
No annual fee, and since I pay off the entire balance every month, an effective negative interest rate. They're paying me to spend money I'm going to spend anyway, and that's fine with me.

Brian Bronson
New But isn't that the only sane way to use any CC?
Then you get the use of their funds through the billing cycle (they still rake off from the merchants - so they don't dislike the fast-payers as much as some make out..)

All I know fershure is - anyone who maintains a rotating balance at 20+ percent with THIS Prime Rate - has failed the IQ test (or is living in perpetual Emergency, as.. only *sometimes* is unavoidable).

Ashton
New Yessirree, but trying to convince some people of this
is harder than it should be! Like some of my friends and relatives.

Brian Bronson
     Credit card companies and their increasing power - (lincoln) - (27)
         I don't use them - (tuberculosis) - (13)
             How do you rent a car? -NT - (Another Scott) - (9)
                 Many local branches will rent on a debit card - (FuManChu)
                 AMEX - (SpiceWare) - (7)
                     I'll never use them again - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                         Get it in writing - (kmself) - (2)
                             Tried that - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                 Welcome brother - (Ashton)
                     I like Discover - (bbronson) - (2)
                         But isn't that the only sane way to use any CC? - (Ashton) - (1)
                             Yessirree, but trying to convince some people of this - (bbronson)
             I've cut back on my use of them - (orion)
             CC advantages - (kmself)
             Credit card is much better if used correctly - (bluke)
         It's that penultimate sentence which is the Killer - - (Ashton)
         Ahh, so it's not people's greed and impatience, it's credit - (Arkadiy) - (5)
             Agreed. - (a6l6e6x)
             Bingo -NT - (bbronson)
             Good reminder : also dispute resolution, leverage on returns -NT - (Ashton)
             The problem is if you trip.... - (kmself) - (1)
                 The problem happens when you don't pay - (Arkadiy)
         Re: Credit card companies and their increasing power - (Nightowl)
         Forget credit card debt, student loans will sink the U.S. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (4)
             don't remind me. - (Steve Lowe) - (2)
                 Difference between credit card debt and student loans... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                     Neoconmen are Incapable of subtle thought; could care less.. -NT - (Ashton)
             Canada too - (jake123)

Rather in the way of gilding the lily, and not to be encouraged.
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