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New MS has a good idea
>> But that requires Java and with the ego they've invested in the anti-Java campaign I can't see them doing that. Does an application server based on C# make sense? Isn't that .NET? Can they overcome Java's market share? <<

The idea of .NET is that multiple languages can allegedly use it. They even brought in Bertrand Meyer's group to port Eiffle. That way one is not stuck with just one programming language (Java).

Unlike SUN, they are only hogging the API, not the language(s).


>> Negative coverage from Gartner and others is going to make selling .NET even tougher. <<

If MS shuts down all the mostly unused gizmos on IIS defaults, most of their security problems will go away. It is the extra's that leave the most holes.



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New Re: MS has a good idea
Good idea?

Portable?

Point me to all the non-Windows ports of .NET.
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New Point me to all the usable non-Sun ports of Java
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New Re: Point me to all the usable non-Sun ports of Java
For a JRE, I'm rather partial to the [link|http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux130/?dwzone=java|IBM implementation]. Apparently their dev tools are nifty, too.


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New *chuckle* Ya beat me to it!

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New More usable than Sun's, faster than Microsoft's.
IBM is my JVM of choice.
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-scott anderson
New Well, off the top of my head
Here's a few of [link|http://www.ibm.com/java/jdk|IBM's] various JDKs...

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New Not a significant consideration . .
. . because most current languages are being retrofitted to optionally produce Java byte code.

Any software developer with the business awareness of a jellyfish (12%?) should clearly see what happens to Microsoft "partners" by now. The choice should be pretty obvious to any sentient being.
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New Re: Not a significant consideration . .
Any software developer with the business awareness of a jellyfish (12%?) should clearly see what happens to Microsoft "partners" by now. The choice should be pretty obvious to any sentient being.

Er, doesn't that exclude most managers and policy makers?
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     Gartner group to IIS users: RUN FOR THE HILLS!!! - (Silverlock) - (23)
         Microsoft response: Wait! No, we're, uh, REWRITING it! Yeah! - (admin) - (17)
             Joel Spolskly's response: you fools - (kmself) - (16)
                 Depends on the reason.... - (Simon_Jester) - (13)
                     along the same lines - (cforde) - (12)
                         Refactoring - (kmself) - (11)
                             rock and a hard place - (cforde) - (10)
                                 MS has a good idea - (tablizer) - (9)
                                     Re: MS has a good idea - (wharris2) - (5)
                                         Point me to all the usable non-Sun ports of Java -NT - (tablizer) - (4)
                                             Re: Point me to all the usable non-Sun ports of Java - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                 *chuckle* Ya beat me to it! -NT - (imric)
                                                 More usable than Sun's, faster than Microsoft's. - (admin)
                                             Well, off the top of my head - (imric)
                                     Not a significant consideration . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                         Re: Not a significant consideration . . - (wharris2) - (1)
                                             Yes -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                 Don't agree with that, either - (tonytib) - (1)
                     Indeed. - (static)
         My wife's tiny little site has been under attack - (mhuber) - (4)
             Welcome to the land of the worms. - (bepatient)
             Thanks: collecting hard #s like yours.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                 So, you want hard numbers, eh? - (mhuber) - (1)
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