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New '73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well.
And (even I) made it a point to look around, each year for about (5?) afterwards: for * signs of intelligent life in the universe.

* Lily Tomlin has her show of that name, in San Francisco this week IIRC. Laugh-In had our number too well, in the late '60s -- so the network had to kill it, of course.

After about six months, and the return of unlimited oil-at-Any-price for the 12 mpg Detroit iron of the day: we went back to sleep (nothwithstanding the occasional pious speech from this one or that one, admonishing ustoplanahead).

Nothing I've owned since (or then, actually) has produced <25 mpg except for: the '70 Buick Riviera I bought for a song, at the height of the 'discomfort': sold a year later for $1000+ profit. I deem this one transaction as adequate evidence of our attention span then, and since. Buick weighed 5000#, which I thought then was ludicrous.

Drive hard: *6 mpg* for that car. Drive really carefully: maybe 13 on a trip. Anyone notice the mileage of the Popular Urban assault Vehicles of the new millennium? (7300# for the Explorer)
(umm QED?)

Hydrogen, hybrids, ... lots of ideas have been around since before '73. We (generally) do not care about 'conservation' of any resource - only consumption, comfort and amusement / distraction.

Did 9/11 alter our deeply ingrained MO, more than momentarily?
Place bets.


Ashton
Expand Edited by Missing User 70 Sept. 28, 2001, 06:07:55 PM EDT
New Re: '73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well.
Explorer = 4334 lbs (4wd, loaded)
Expedition = 5198 lbs (4wd, loaded)
Excursion = 7087 lbs (4wd, loaded)

(from consumerguide.com)

I've always suspected the "7300# for the Explorer" figure you've been throwing around was grossly overstated. Actually, I'm no fan of Explorers, -peditions, -cursions either, just wanted to set the record straight.
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Steve
     Roots Of Rage: U.S. policy mixed with Islamic triumphalism? - (brettj) - (46)
         The alternatives to meddling. - (marlowe)
         Re: Roots Of Rage: U.S. policy mixed with Islamic triumphali - (gtall) - (44)
             '73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well. - (Ashton) - (1)
                 Re: '73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well. - (Steve Lowe)
             Good Intentions != Good Perceptions - (tablizer) - (41)
                 However... - (a6l6e6x) - (31)
                     oil and water? - (tablizer) - (2)
                         Well, we've got our problems here in the US. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                             Thou sayest.. - (Ashton)
                     Re: However... - (gtall) - (27)
                         IIRC Mahatir binM was interviewed on PBS some years back - (Ashton) - (11)
                             Re: IIRC Mahatir binM was interviewed on PBS some years back - (gtall) - (10)
                                 Re: I concur with your picture of Indonesia & Malaysia - (dmarker2)
                                 Concur with the ideas - (Ashton)
                                 Question about your interpretation of religion. - (brettj) - (7)
                                     Logic obviously tellls us... - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                         I took your bait once ... - (brettj) - (1)
                                             If you *could* "take my bait", I'd have to throw you back... - (CRConrad)
                                         I would say no more than 40% of Americans are losers. - (marlowe) - (1)
                                             How DARE you criticize... - (CRConrad)
                                     Re: Question about your interpretation of religion. - (gtall) - (1)
                                         Thanks for the polite response. - (brettj)
                         Sure, as soon as you make Taiwan a State. What, ain't gonna? - (CRConrad) - (14)
                             A piece of Turkey is in Europe, CRC. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                 Yeah, I know, the bit around Mikkelgarth[*]. And I'm sure... - (CRConrad)
                             Well, I don't know 'zactly what Hawaii is . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                 It's an archipelago. HTH! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     That's pronounced, "archipelago". HTH! :-) -NT - (tseliot)
                             Re: Sure, as soon as you make Taiwan a State. What, ain't go - (gtall) - (8)
                                 I don't think you quite understand the issues here. - (CRConrad) - (7)
                                     Arnt you folks overrun by turks as it is? - (boxley)
                                     Re: I don't think you quite understand the issues here. - (gtall) - (1)
                                         mfff, snort, ROFL! this could get good. -NT - (boxley)
                                     United States of Europe? - (admin) - (3)
                                         Dunno, but I think it's at least not quite impossible - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                             The French? - (wharris2)
                                             More like the United kindoms of Greater Briton :) -NT - (boxley)
                 Re: Good Intentions != Good Perceptions - (wharris2) - (8)
                     You are too kind. - (Ashton) - (7)
                         Please get your masses right. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                             Re: Please get your masses right. - (Ashton) - (5)
                                 Your missing something Ash. - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                     So are you and, above all, they. Here's the fallacy: - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                         Well, ..... of course. - (Silverlock)
                                     Not missing it, nor do I argue with that narrow thesis - (Ashton)
                                     SUV Safety - (pwhysall)

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