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Post #11,462
by CRConrad
10/3/01 12:17:36 PM
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New Dunno, but I think it's at least not quite impossible
Scott writes:
I'm more interested in how you and Gerald get on in this conversation. ;-)
I wonder... I'm pretty proud I cooled down and didn't rapid-fire off the first reply that came to mind. (Still, if it's a flamewar he wants, I'll humour him at least to some extent.)


Anyway, like the French will ever go for a USofE. They're totally paranoid about cultural contamination as it is.
Yeah, but that's mainly cultural contamination *from you uncouth colonials*, it seems; I don't think *European* culture scares them as much -- perhaps mainly because they trend to see it as an extension of their own.

So I think they see themselves as so much "primus inter pares" that they might still go for this; that they see a possible "Etats-Unies d'Europe" not as 'France, attached to Europe' but as 'Europe, attached to France'. (Only later vill ve tell tzem vhat 'die Vereinigten Staaten Europas' vill mean in terms off vho is really running tze shovv...)
   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #11,476
by wharris2
10/3/01 12:49:37 PM
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New The French?
They've got a huge case of the been-blown-to-bits-twice and had-to-be-rescued-by-the-US twice goos. I sorta wish nowdays that we'd kept our neutrality in World War 1. Germany might have carved off some of France (if they'd won) or France might have carved off some of Germany (if France/England had won) but at least they wouldn't have had this massive inferiority complex.
Who knows how empty the sky is
In the place of a fallen tower.
Who knows how quiet it is in the home
Where a son has not returned.

-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #11,478
by boxley
10/3/01 12:53:09 PM
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New More like the United kindoms of Greater Briton :)
why did god give us a talleywhacker and a trigger finger if he didnt want us to use them?
Randy Wayne White
     Roots Of Rage: U.S. policy mixed with Islamic triumphalism? - (brettj) - (46) - Sept. 28, 2001, 08:41:07 AM EDT
         The alternatives to meddling. - (marlowe) - Sept. 28, 2001, 01:06:22 PM EDT
         Re: Roots Of Rage: U.S. policy mixed with Islamic triumphali - (gtall) - (44) - Sept. 28, 2001, 01:14:01 PM EDT
             '73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well. - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2001, 06:07:55 PM EDT
                 Re: '73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well. - (Steve Lowe) - Oct. 1, 2001, 11:26:29 AM EDT
             Good Intentions != Good Perceptions - (tablizer) - (41) - Sept. 28, 2001, 07:40:15 PM EDT
                 However... - (a6l6e6x) - (31) - Sept. 28, 2001, 08:05:20 PM EDT
                     oil and water? - (tablizer) - (2) - Sept. 28, 2001, 09:08:28 PM EDT
                         Well, we've got our problems here in the US. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2001, 04:27:37 PM EDT
                             Thou sayest.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 28, 2001, 09:52:25 PM EDT
                     Re: However... - (gtall) - (27) - Sept. 29, 2001, 09:25:25 AM EDT
                         IIRC Mahatir binM was interviewed on PBS some years back - (Ashton) - (11) - Sept. 29, 2001, 02:17:54 PM EDT
                             Re: IIRC Mahatir binM was interviewed on PBS some years back - (gtall) - (10) - Sept. 29, 2001, 07:44:36 PM EDT
                                 Re: I concur with your picture of Indonesia & Malaysia - (dmarker2) - Sept. 30, 2001, 12:09:18 AM EDT
                                 Concur with the ideas - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2001, 03:37:03 AM EDT
                                 Question about your interpretation of religion. - (brettj) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2001, 04:08:51 PM EDT
                                     Logic obviously tellls us... - (CRConrad) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:39:03 PM EDT
                                         I took your bait once ... - (brettj) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:41:32 PM EDT
                                             If you *could* "take my bait", I'd have to throw you back... - (CRConrad) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:51:52 PM EDT
                                         I would say no more than 40% of Americans are losers. - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 05:56:08 PM EDT
                                             How DARE you criticize... - (CRConrad) - Oct. 1, 2001, 06:19:21 PM EDT
                                     Re: Question about your interpretation of religion. - (gtall) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 07:56:49 AM EDT
                                         Thanks for the polite response. - (brettj) - Oct. 1, 2001, 10:49:18 AM EDT
                         Sure, as soon as you make Taiwan a State. What, ain't gonna? - (CRConrad) - (14) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:36:30 PM EDT
                             A piece of Turkey is in Europe, CRC. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2001, 08:38:22 PM EDT
                                 Yeah, I know, the bit around Mikkelgarth[*]. And I'm sure... - (CRConrad) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:10:45 AM EDT
                             Well, I don't know 'zactly what Hawaii is . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2001, 11:21:02 PM EDT
                                 It's an archipelago. HTH! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:04:12 AM EDT
                                     That's pronounced, "archipelago". HTH! :-) -NT - (tseliot) - Oct. 1, 2001, 12:37:48 PM EDT
                             Re: Sure, as soon as you make Taiwan a State. What, ain't go - (gtall) - (8) - Oct. 1, 2001, 10:16:30 AM EDT
                                 I don't think you quite understand the issues here. - (CRConrad) - (7) - Oct. 1, 2001, 11:33:05 AM EDT
                                     Arnt you folks overrun by turks as it is? - (boxley) - Oct. 1, 2001, 12:09:33 PM EDT
                                     Re: I don't think you quite understand the issues here. - (gtall) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 07:47:32 AM EDT
                                         mfff, snort, ROFL! this could get good. -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 3, 2001, 10:09:57 AM EDT
                                     United States of Europe? - (admin) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2001, 10:16:32 AM EDT
                                         Dunno, but I think it's at least not quite impossible - (CRConrad) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:17:36 PM EDT
                                             The French? - (wharris2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:49:37 PM EDT
                                             More like the United kindoms of Greater Briton :) -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:53:09 PM EDT
                 Re: Good Intentions != Good Perceptions - (wharris2) - (8) - Sept. 29, 2001, 09:51:47 AM EDT
                     You are too kind. - (Ashton) - (7) - Sept. 29, 2001, 02:24:42 PM EDT
                         Please get your masses right. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 29, 2001, 05:01:36 PM EDT
                             Re: Please get your masses right. - (Ashton) - (5) - Sept. 29, 2001, 06:43:53 PM EDT
                                 Your missing something Ash. - (Silverlock) - (4) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:40:46 AM EDT
                                     So are you and, above all, they. Here's the fallacy: - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:56:50 AM EDT
                                         Well, ..... of course. - (Silverlock) - Oct. 1, 2001, 10:19:11 AM EDT
                                     Not missing it, nor do I argue with that narrow thesis - (Ashton) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:35:25 PM EDT
                                     SUV Safety - (pwhysall) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:41:33 PM EDT

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