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Post #73,925 by bepatient 1/10/03 2:06:13 PM Reply	Focus on Federal. It really does get simpler. But, of course, the view doesn't agree with yours...so you introduce alot of unrelated items. >Federal< sales tax? When was that introduced? Are we changing social security withholding? No. Cigarette taxes? Sure theres a little piece thats federal but mostly state. Focus...Brandi-san...must focus. The article was about the >income< tax debate. Funny how that works. --- If you want to debate that there are too many of these various taxes at various levels of government...you will not get an argument from me...because I agree...and they all need to be cut. If your going to try and convince someone that the article was innacurate about the >income< tax system...introduce something other than "you don't understand"...because he does...and thats pretty much how the numbers come out. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #73,942 by boxley 1/10/03 4:05:23 PM Reply	federal sales tax on gas cigs alcohol telecommunications etc will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian
Post #73,989 by bepatient 1/10/03 8:26:41 PM Reply	Certain items...sure. General >sales<...not really. Cigs and booze are insignificant compared to state levied taxes on same. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #74,439 by lincoln 1/14/03 12:50:25 PM Reply	Those aren't "taxes", they're "user fees" I only pay them when I purchase the product, or pay my monthly service bill. They're still insignificant compared to income tax, but at least these are ones I can CHOOSE to avoid if I don't buy the products and/or services that are being taxed. Example: My monthly cigarette tax is $0.00, but my monthly gasoline tax is probably around $40 - $50 (guesstimate). lincoln "Four score and seven years ago, I had a better sig"
Post #74,883 by boxley 1/16/03 10:55:59 AM Reply	and sales tax on food is also a user fee? will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian
Post #74,962 by bepatient 1/16/03 6:31:42 PM Reply	Fed? Food? You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #75,005 by boxley 1/16/03 9:56:26 PM Reply	state not fed except for ag subsidies which are levied against general fund, so round about, food is taxed. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian

Nice tax analogy - (SpiceWare) - (36) - Jan. 10, 2003, 11:43:38 AM EST

Thats it in a nutshell. -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2003, 11:50:26 AM EST

Idiotic Analogy - (deSitter) - (14) - Jan. 10, 2003, 11:56:58 AM EST

What algebra, - (bepatient) - (13) - Jan. 10, 2003, 01:13:16 PM EST

Well...if we do some algerbra...we can figure out the - (Simon_Jester) - (12) - Jan. 11, 2003, 10:35:27 AM EST

Your comparing the wrong things. - (bepatient) - (11) - Jan. 11, 2003, 02:22:37 PM EST

No I'm not... - (Simon_Jester) - (6) - Jan. 12, 2003, 09:47:34 AM EST

You don't understand. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2003, 12:59:21 PM EST

Nice misdirection. - (bepatient) - Jan. 12, 2003, 04:53:22 PM EST

I understand what you're saying. - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 12, 2003, 05:39:17 PM EST

Right, the rich will shelter income - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2003, 08:18:21 PM EST

Zoooom.. the sound of - - -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 12, 2003, 10:55:54 PM EST

Chuckle... I think we agree. - (Simon_Jester) - Jan. 12, 2003, 09:31:10 PM EST

Let me translate that - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Jan. 12, 2003, 08:13:54 PM EST

Nothing objectionable there. - (bepatient) - (2) - Jan. 12, 2003, 11:15:10 PM EST

The translation might be slightly loose... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2003, 11:41:51 PM EST

Fair enough -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 12, 2003, 11:52:05 PM EST

Now after dinner they go to a bar - (boxley) - Jan. 10, 2003, 12:08:03 PM EST

Close - (Steve Lowe) - Jan. 10, 2003, 12:23:16 PM EST

You REALLY don't understand taxes. - (Brandioch) - (11) - Jan. 10, 2003, 01:39:55 PM EST

This is true - (deSitter) - (3) - Jan. 10, 2003, 01:49:46 PM EST

Then do it. - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2003, 02:07:49 PM EST

Exactly. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2003, 05:46:10 PM EST

And the counter... - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2003, 08:24:26 PM EST

Focus on Federal. - (bepatient) - (6) - Jan. 10, 2003, 02:06:13 PM EST

federal sales tax on gas cigs alcohol telecommunications etc -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Jan. 10, 2003, 04:05:23 PM EST

Certain items...sure. - (bepatient) - Jan. 10, 2003, 08:26:41 PM EST

Those aren't "taxes", they're "user fees" - (lincoln) - (3) - Jan. 14, 2003, 12:50:25 PM EST

and sales tax on food is also a user fee? -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 16, 2003, 10:55:59 AM EST

Fed? Food? -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 16, 2003, 06:31:42 PM EST

state not fed except for ag subsidies which are levied - (boxley) - Jan. 16, 2003, 09:56:26 PM EST

Not quite - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2003, 09:16:01 PM EST

Ahh... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2003, 09:53:13 PM EST

Yabut here's an even Better Analysis - by the same guy (new thread) - (Ashton) - Jan. 11, 2003, 06:24:56 AM EST

Yeah, but whats missing - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:01:04 AM EDT

Actually, if you're the rich guy... - (Simon_Jester) - Jan. 14, 2003, 07:42:03 PM EST

A Buzzflash response - (Silverlock) - Jan. 16, 2003, 12:39:54 PM EST

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