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New 2 points re Oregon and Hillary
Several years ago when Oregon was putting together their plan, I read that ranked all maladies and drew a line at about number 800. If you suffered from maladies 1 to 800, you were covered. If you suffered from maldies 801 to infinity, you were out of luck. That's rationing, and I have yet to see a proponent of universal coverage address the rationing that will occur.

You only listed one of the 2 big problems with HillaryCare: mandated HMO system. The other was outlawing all medical care outside of the HillaryCare system. Another problem (I don't know if it's big or lesser) was quotas on the types of doctors ("We have too many ear, nose and throat specialists, so you'll be a proctologist. Next applicant?") Would you like the government telling you that, if you want to work in IT, you must be a VB programmer, and that it would be illegal for you to do SmallTalk consulting on the side?

The big question is, if inflation is at ~3%, why are health insurance premiums going up ~25-50%? I don't think doctor salaries are the primary cause.

Brian Bronson
New Question
Have you actually looked at how universal care works outside of the US in any of the countries that have it?

And by look I do not mean digest the usual ration of misrepresented horror stories that get repeated every so often.

About your question. There are several answers. A lot of it is related to paperwork overhead. A lot of it is legal. The fundamental problem is that when it is your life and death at stake, you will generally pay anything you own for care. That is the potential demand that the healthcare system is attempting to expand into...

Cheers,
Ben
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     New idea for universal health care - (bluke) - (17)
         I don't think universal care will work in the US until - (Another Scott) - (8)
             That I do not believe - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 2 points re Oregon and Hillary - (bbronson) - (1)
                     Question - (ben_tilly)
             physician salaries are slightly less than mine - (boxley) - (3)
                 Damn, you make a lot of money. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                     so the docs I talk to are stupid or lying? - (boxley) - (1)
                         Not knowing them, I give 'em the benefit of the doubt. - (mmoffitt)
             Physicians salaries in Israel ... - (bluke)
         Another problem - (ben_tilly) - (6)
             Yep, paperwork is a big problem. - (a6l6e6x)
             Others as well, and agree. - (Steve Lowe) - (3)
                 All patents are 17 years - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     Re: defensible? - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                         Agreed -NT - (ben_tilly)
             This is a problem. But the cure might be worse. - (mmoffitt)
         You gotta be kidding!!! - (jb4)

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