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Post #6,368
by tablizer
8/22/01 4:24:38 PM
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New Re: Fooling the Turing Test
First of all, emulating the speach of an 18 month-old is not that hard. But, extrapolating that to a 5-year-old and then further is a bit too presumptuious.

I can build an emulation of a 9 month child, although my Puke-A-Tron still has a few glitches in it.

Did Turing specify what kind of human was to be emulated? The person on the other side could possibly mistake some of the current chat bots for skiztofranic humans.

However, they will never be able to emulate my bad spelling. That should be the *real* test.



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Post #7,274
by mhuber
8/30/01 5:27:33 PM
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New Yep, Turing specified
A man pretending to be a woman.

Which was the success criteria, as well. The computer had to fool people as often as the man.

Alan Turing's test, the way he wrote it, is pretty hard. The variations are much easier. I had an entirely functional emulator named Katy.exe that was indistinguishable from a person suffering from catatonia. And I didn't even write it on purpose, I renamed another program that happened to work that way due to something stupid I did with a pointer.
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- Pat McCurdy
     Hal is born - (DonRichards) - (18) - Aug. 21, 2001, 10:09:49 AM EDT
         Halfway there. - (tseliot) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2001, 03:41:55 PM EDT
             You should also look at the Cog project, then... - (neelk) - (2) - Aug. 23, 2001, 09:15:42 AM EDT
                 Fascinating - (deSitter) - Aug. 23, 2001, 11:51:02 AM EDT
                 Thanks! Cursory view looks promising... -NT - (tseliot) - Aug. 23, 2001, 02:21:45 PM EDT
         Hal, shmal - (wharris2) - (3) - Aug. 22, 2001, 02:50:41 AM EDT
             Why so hostile? - (DonRichards) - (2) - Aug. 22, 2001, 09:09:58 AM EDT
                 Just the hype - (wharris2) - (1) - Aug. 22, 2001, 09:57:27 AM EDT
                     But it doesn't say that - (DonRichards) - Aug. 22, 2001, 11:15:32 AM EDT
         Validity of the Turing Test? - (ChrisR) - (9) - Aug. 22, 2001, 09:44:10 AM EDT
             Good points - (DonRichards) - Aug. 22, 2001, 11:17:00 AM EDT
             The best argument against the Turing Test is Eliza -NT - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Aug. 22, 2001, 04:17:48 PM EDT
                 No, the best argument against the Turing Test is Usenet - (drewk) - (4) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:05:06 PM EDT
                     Don't You Need Numbers? - (deSitter) - Aug. 23, 2001, 02:11:31 PM EDT
                     Well purl passed the IRC test a long time ago - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 24, 2001, 10:25:50 AM EDT
                         How 'bout the magical Frenchman? -NT - (drewk) - Aug. 24, 2001, 12:43:41 PM EDT
                         unReal.. but real-enough for Govt. Work. merely the facade - (Ashton) - Aug. 27, 2001, 05:16:44 PM EDT
             Re: Fooling the Turing Test - (tablizer) - (1) - Aug. 22, 2001, 04:24:38 PM EDT
                 Yep, Turing specified - (mhuber) - Aug. 30, 2001, 05:27:33 PM EDT

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