The best argument against the Turing Test is Eliza

Post #6,363 by ben_tilly 8/22/01 4:17:48 PM Reply	The best argument against the Turing Test is Eliza
Post #6,450 by drewk 8/23/01 12:05:06 PM Reply	No, the best argument against the Turing Test is Usenet Turing test is only a measure of linguistic compatibility. We can learn new words, but that's not the same as a new language. We can learn new grammar, but that's not the same as context. With sufficiently different context, anyone could fail a Turing test. Test an Aborigine via a text-only interface and I doubt he would "pass." This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #6,491 by deSitter 8/23/01 2:11:31 PM Reply	Don't You Need Numbers? The Hopi Indians had only three numbers - one, two, and many. Somehow this entire Turing thing seems hokey to me. In any case reality obeys the principle of complementarity and the superposition principle, and that can't be modeled as 1s and 0s since there is an inherently statistical element.
Post #6,592 by ben_tilly 8/24/01 10:25:50 AM Reply	Well purl passed the IRC test a long time ago Infobots have for several years been good enough to fool people into believing that they were just helped out by a real person. But yes, maintaining a coherent Usenet personality that looks somewhat normal would take some real work. Either that or it would act like Ashton. Speaking of which, Ashton, are you real...? :-) Cheers, Ben
Post #6,612 by drewk 8/24/01 12:43:41 PM Reply	How 'bout the magical Frenchman? This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #6,865 by Ashton 8/27/01 5:16:44 PM Reply	unReal.. but real-enough for Govt. Work. merely the facade Precisely as one ranks the other artifacts within the daily illusion we generate, on 'awakening'. And call those 'real'. ('You', of course would disappear were 'I' to disappear) Now as to the Real, I could only say tha Error 42: Undefined for this set. Topology error. Syntax error. Script error. Compile error. Program error. Execution error. Life systems terminated. SYSTEM HALTED

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