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I don't know what it is about that site, but I get what's clearly an article template page, but without the article. Could someone post text or at least juicy nuggets? Thanks.

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New All gone now -
I can't read it anymore either. Maybe it was too embarassing.

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  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
New "Security warning on open source"
Karen Dearne
NOVEMBER 12, 2002

LINUX is not a more secure environment than NT or Windows, Internet Security Systems chief technology officer Chris Klaus warns.

"Linux has just as many security holes as Windows in terms of how often we see vulnerabilities appearing,'' Mr Klaus said.
"Recently there have been two major Trojan horses found in open source projects - one in Sunmail, which is the email package for most Unix systems including Linux, and the other was OpenSSH."

Technical people liked open source because they could go to the internet, grab a patch and fix problems quickly, he said.

But they failed to appreciate the huge cost of doing that across hundreds or thousands of machines in a company.

"To go in and change source code and patch might be okay on one machine - but there's a problem when you look at doing that on a much greater scale," Mr Klaus said.

"An enormous amount of vulnerabilities are appearing in Linux. Because it's open source anybody can contribute code to it - there's no central authority doing security for any new code added."

The founder of global risk management and information security solutions company Internet Security Systems (ISS) in 1994, Mr Klaus said the profile of hackers had changed.

"More attacks are being done by professionals," he said.

"It's like the old saying: why rob banks? Because that's where the money is.

"Unfortunately, the internet is now where the money is, meaning you can pretty much hack into every bank or business in the world that's connected to the internet."

Mr Klaus, who is a member of the White House Critical Infrastructure Task Force and the FBI's Infraguard Program, was in Australia last month to talk to corporate clients and government departments.
   Christian R. Conrad
Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time.
-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
New Was that a typo?
Recently there have been two major Trojan horses found in open source projects - one in Sunmail, which is the email package for most Unix systems including Linux

Was that Sendmail in the original and you typoed it? Or did it appear that way in the article? If this guy actually said "Sunmail" he just lost all credibility with anyone who knows a damn thing about what he's talking about.
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New Cut-and-pasted it, so not MY typo, anyway. But...
DrooK
[quoting the article:]
Recently there have been two major Trojan horses found in open source projects - one in Sunmail, which is the email package for most Unix systems including Linux
Was that Sendmail in the original and you typoed it? Or did it appear that way in the article?
It appeared that way in the article (which I saw just fine, BTW), but...


If this guy actually said "Sunmail" he just lost all credibility with anyone who knows a damn thing about what he's talking about.
...that could still mean he *said* "Sendmail", only the reporter (Karen Somethingorother) *heard* it as "Sunmail". All things considered, I'd say that seems the likeliest explanation.

I must say it slipped by me, though -- I just thought, "What, has Sun donated any mail system to the Open Source community? But that surely can't be the 'default' on Open Source systems... oh well, never mind.", or something like that.
   Christian R. Conrad
Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time.
-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
New What in heck is Mr. Klaus talking about?
But they failed to appreciate the huge cost of doing that across hundreds or thousands of machines in a company.

"To go in and change source code and patch might be okay on one machine - but there's a problem when you look at doing that on a much greater scale," Mr Klaus said.

Oh, yeah, and it's soooooo much more simple to patch hundreds or thousands of computers running Windows? Let's see, an average of three reboots per patch...
     White House Critical Infrastructure Task Force - (imric) - (25)
         Is an effing JOKE! -NT - (folkert) - (1)
             haha. -NT - (imric)
         So many issues, so little time... - (Yendor)
         Research? and Edward Felten's Blog - (deSitter) - (2)
             He calls that an "[INCORRECT ITEM:]", now: - (CRConrad) - (1)
                 Typical lawyer - (drewk)
         RE Chris Klaus - (deSitter)
         He's been reading way to much of Lewis' work. -NT - (bepatient) - (9)
             Lewis Carroll? C.S. Lewis? - (Silverlock) - (8)
                 Jerry Lewis? -NT - (tjsinclair) - (7)
                     L.A.M.,E.? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                         Ding Ding Ding Ding...we have a WINNA! -NT - (bepatient) - (5)
                             Damn... And I was *JOKING!* -NT - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                                 That article reminded me... - (bepatient) - (3)
                                     "Security by obscurity" that is. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                         I wish someone would... - (bepatient) - (1)
                                             Great Idea: get reporters + 2 boxes and GO ---> [sell ads] -NT - (Ashton)
         That was predicted. - (Brandioch) - (1)
             #5 - (inthane-chan)
         Text? - (kmself) - (5)
             All gone now - - (imric)
             "Security warning on open source" - (CRConrad) - (3)
                 Was that a typo? - (drewk) - (1)
                     Cut-and-pasted it, so not MY typo, anyway. But... - (CRConrad)
                 What in heck is Mr. Klaus talking about? - (wharris2)

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