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Post #401,681 by crazy 5/11/15 6:41:51 PM Reply	knee jerk http://thejointblog.com/studies-shows-marijuana-consumption-not-associated-with-dangerous-driving-may-lead-to-safer-drivers/ Science. Love it. Anecdotes? Not so much.
Post #401,703 by rcareaga 5/12/15 12:28:12 PM 5/12/15 4:04:32 PM Reply	doped driving On the very few occasions on which I drove thus impaired (a distant era indeed), I was paranoid and highly unhappy with the circumstances that had placed me behind the wheel (contra mmoffitt's premises that stoners are uniformly in denial in this matter). My driving, over the course of relatively short distances on each occasion, was accordingly conservative, slow. In later years I know that I occasionally took the wheel with what would today be deemed impermissible blood alcohol levels in a spirit of blithe indifference. I drive so little anymore (I noticed the other week that my parallel parking chops have pretty much withered and died) that I'd never operate a motor vehicle at any level of chemical impairment. cordially, Edited by rcareaga May 12, 2015, 04:04:24 PM EDT Edited by rcareaga May 12, 2015, 04:04:32 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #401,709 by crazy 5/12/15 3:32:41 PM Reply	you are the perfect example I make no claims that smoking does not impair your judgment and slow your reflexes. Of course it does. But stats and studies show that you are aware of it, and alter your driving according. Does every one? No. Most young males are crappy drivers, enjoying the rush of adrenaline by going too fast and taking too many chances. They think they will live forever, and do not account for the deadly damage possible. And I assume smoking does little to alter this behavior. But mm will spend the rest of his life demonizing based on a single incident,no matter what the facts show otherwise.
Post #401,712 by rcareaga 5/12/15 4:08:48 PM Reply	Precisely mm will spend the rest of his life demonizing based on a single incident It was a traumatic incident, of course, but he will never leave off drawing unwontedly broad conclusions from the tragedy. Presumably he will assist Indiana in maintaining the present mediaeval strictures and penalties long after the civilized portions of the country have given up on these. cordially,
Post #401,741 by gcareaga 5/13/15 4:42:27 PM Reply	Drunk vs. doped A drunk driver will blow through a stop sign. A doped driver will stop and wait for it to turn green.
Post #401,742 by gcareaga 5/13/15 4:48:39 PM Reply	Impairment I don't risk driving impaired and will only have one adult beverage with a meal and a long wait if I have to drive. My friends N&L prefer to pick me up for drinks since I don't start to become fun until the second beer.
Post #401,781 by mmoffitt 5/14/15 10:39:04 PM Reply	Yes, all relly good science is posted on "jointblog". Jesus.
Post #401,789 by crazy 5/15/15 7:57:27 AM 5/15/15 7:58:30 AM Reply	your favorite method of arguing this point Is kill the messenger. Read the links. Jesus? Yup, you need a sky fairy to back your position. Ahh, magical thinking. Edited by crazy May 15, 2015, 07:58:30 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #401,805 by mmoffitt 5/15/15 4:53:46 PM Reply	Let me put it this way. Drug users and their dealers claim drugs are not only harmless, but are an actual benefit to society. Film at 11. As far as my understanding of "science" goes, I have two undergraduate degrees in science and a Master of Science in Mathematics.
Post #401,808 by crazy 5/15/15 8:26:57 PM Reply	and yet you still shoot the messenger Oh, of course, you set up a straw man to ridicule first. You seethe in a dark place. Anger is a result of unmet expectations. And you are very angry. What expectation did you have that the universe failed to provide for?
Post #401,880 by crazy 5/18/15 10:36:55 PM 5/18/15 10:51:36 PM Reply	this one is pretty straightforward http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/healthcare-triage-news-marijuana-intoxication-and-driving/ No effect on accident rates. None. Report from the NHTSA. Link to full report under the video. Go to page 6 on the report for the numbers. Gonna shoot that messenger too? On the other hand, I'll throw you a bone: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150518191604.htm Of course, since I agree with you that kids should not be touching it there is no change in my position based on it. Edited by crazy May 18, 2015, 10:51:36 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #401,888 by mmoffitt 5/19/15 11:09:16 AM Reply	There's just not much science behind this either way at this point. Emphasis Mine. In a paper published today in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), researchers for the first time comprehensively describe existing abnormalities in brain function and structure of long-term marijuana users with multiple magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) techniques. Findings show chronic marijuana users have smaller brain volume in the orbitofrontal cortex (OFC), a part of the brain commonly associated with addiction, but also increased brain connectivity. “We have seen a steady increase in the incidence of marijuana use since 2007,“said Dr. Francesca Filbey, Associate Professor in the School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences at the University of Texas at Dallas and Director of the Cognitive Neuroscience Research in Addictive Disorders at the Center for BrainHealth. “However, research on its long-term effects remains scarce despite the changes in legislation surrounding marijuana and the continuing conversation surrounding this relevant public health topic.” http://www.brainhealth.utdallas.edu/blog_page/study-shows-marijuanas-long-term-effects-on-the-brain

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