Oversimplification.

Post #387,293 by a6l6e6x 3/6/14 5:56:15 PM Reply	Oversimplification. For example he says Ukraine has been foreign controlled since the 14th century. A single counterexample makes the statement false. For example, in the 20th century at the end of WW-I, before the USSR formed, at least for a while there was an independent Ukraine in at least a part of the territory that is now Ukraine. There was a government, they issued currency, etc. See here: https://en.wikipedia...r_of_Independence The Bolsheviks prevailed to be sure. Another example is this shown in this "The Zaporozhye Cossacks Replying to the Sultan" painting of an 1675 (i.e. 17th century) event: https://en.wikipedia...sch_Repin_009.jpg Granted the painting was created 2 centuries later by a Russian of all things. The Cossacks were responding to the Sultan of the Ottoman empire. The amusing exchange of words is here: https://en.wikipedia...orozhian_Cossacks The Cossacks were in charge of the Southern part of Ukraine. That's why the Sultan addressed them. The Cossacks didn't make a deal with Russia until a century deal. Alex ÂThere is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.Â -- Isaac Asimov
Post #387,295 by boxley 3/6/14 7:04:32 PM Reply	te Zaporozhye Cossacks prefer? hint they used to sack poland Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #387,317 by Andrew Grygus 3/7/14 12:48:35 AM 3/7/14 12:51:14 AM Reply	Bull. The Cossacks fought the Poles in Ukraine, but never sacked Poland. The only major sacking of Poland before the Nazis was the Swedes, during the short lived Swedish Empire - which met its Waterloo in Ukraine. The Swedes invaded Poland and Lithuania, and stole every bit of the art, cultural artifacts intellectual property and wealth of those countries, and shipped it all to Sweden. Anything they could not loot, the burned or otherwise destroyed, including castles, churches, villages and cities. They also caused the death of nearly half the population. They did far more looting and destroying than the Nazis during WWII. Sweden remains a criminal country, because they are bound by signed treaty to return what they looted, but to this day refuse to return anything. "Aw, gee, we just don't know where any of that stuff is." Bullshit. I consider the purchase of a Volvo complicity in this criminality. Edited by Andrew Grygus March 7, 2014, 12:51:14 AM EST Expand All History
Post #387,318 by boxley 3/7/14 1:42:55 AM Reply	sorry my historical references are impeccable :-) big fan of tony curtis http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056556/ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep

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