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New Re: Yeah, why let people get benefits *MY* taxes paid for.
There fixed it for you.
New Yeah, only land owners should be able to vote, also too.
New Was that an assumption that those getting any
benefits never paid in?

Or was that an assumption that Box would make that assumption?
New foodstamps for a family of 4 who has a single earner
who can barely cover rent no problem. Or even for non earners, no problem. If you make enough to have 2k in the bank buy yer own food.
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Is a car an "asset" in this case?
The PDF application form asks about "liquid resources" - http://www.dpw.state...ment/s_001565.pdf

Should someone have to sell their car to get food stamps? PA says no.

https://www.humanser...x?Language=EN#CA5

Cheers,
Scott.
New My first thought was houses, not cars
I didn't see much on that either.
New is a car a liquid asset? Not really
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New lincoln's quote excerpt doesn't say "liquid".
The original story/linky seems to have changed. Here's another:

http://www.yorkdispa.../penn/ci_19719563

[...]

In its letter, a Department of Public Welfare official wrote that the proposed asset test would bar anyone under 60 from receiving food stamps if they have more than $2,000 in savings or assets subject to the rule. The limit would be $3,250 for households with someone who is over 60 or disabled.

Advocates for the poor are criticizing the plans, saying the asset limit proposed is unusually punitive and will create barriers for people who genuinely need the federal food subsidy. In addition, imposing the test could absorb caseworkers' time and create delays for people who genuinely qualify, they said.

But Miller said the outlines of the asset test included in the letter were not necessarily final and were based on the previous asset test imposed by Pennsylvania before then-Gov. Ed Rendell did away with it in 2008.

The assets of many recipients were already screened for other welfare programs and dropping the test would encourage low-income households to save more, his administration said at the time.

Many other states got rid or relaxed asset tests during the recession, although the administration of Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder last year began imposing an asset test, albeit one with higher limits.

Thirty-five other states do not enforce an asset test, while four states have raised their minimum allowable assets to $5,000 or more, according to an analysis by the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit organization Food Research and Action Center.

Currently, Pennsylvanians can get food stamps if they make 160 percent or less of the federal poverty level—or about $35,300 for a family of four—which puts it in the middle of the pack of states in generosity. But applicants in Pennsylvania who earn more than that may be able to qualify by deducting expenses for things like housing, medical treatment and child or dependent care.

A household with an elderly or disabled member can count income up to 200 percent of the federal poverty level.

Food stamps are designed to subsidize food purchases at grocery stores and supermarkets for the poor. Benefits range in amount; the maximum for a family of four is $668 a month.

Miller said the department believes the asset test would eliminate the benefit for about 2 percent of food stamp recipients. The $2,000 asset limit has been in law since the 1980s, although states are not required to enforce it.


Emphasis added.

Devil's in the details...

Cheers,
Scott.
New from your link
The assets of many recipients were already screened for other welfare programs and dropping the test would encourage low-income households to save more, his administration said at the time
if they can save 2k they can buy their own groceries
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Hmm...
http://articles.phil...ral-poverty-level

Houses and retirement benefits would be exempt from being counted as assets. If a person owns a car, that vehicle also would also be exempt, but any additional vehicle worth more than $4,650 would be considered a countable asset.

Anne Bale, a spokeswoman for DPW, said the asset test was a way to ensure that "people with resources are not taking advantage of the food-stamp program," funded by federal money.

In addition, Bale said, the test was related to DPW Secretary Gary Alexander's initiative to reduce waste, fraud, and abuse across all department programs.

Bale said DPW estimated that 2 percent of the 1.8 million Pennsylvanians receiving food stamps would be affected by the asset test.

The DPW plan caught many by surprise, but has been widely condemned by Philadelphia city officials, business leaders statewide, and advocates for the poor.

They point to federal statistics showing that Pennsylvania has one of the lowest food-stamp fraud rates in the nation: one-tenth of 1 percent.

In fact, the state recently won a federal award for running its program efficiently, federal officials say.

Moreover, about 30 percent of people who are eligible for food stamps in Pennsylvania and throughout the nation don't access them, making the entitlement program under-subscribed.

Critics of the DPW plan say it would particularly punish elderly people saving for their burials, poor people trying to save enough money to get out of poverty, and working- and middle-class people who lost their jobs in the recession and may now have to liquidate assets to feed their families.


You still think it's about saving "taxpayer money"?

Cheers,
Scott.
New never EVER claimed it was about saving taxpayer money
it was fuckem, they got $2k buy yer own groceries.
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Even if that $2k is in a 2nd car they need. Hmm...
New nice word placement there bucky
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Please don't feed the troll
He's just glorying in being a callous, nihilistic shit with the possibility it will annoy others. Please don't feed the troll.
New Post more often then! I need someone to argue with here :-)
New Nope
1 car is a requirement for most families (job, school, etc). 2nd is a luxury.

I spent a long time living in the burbs with a wife and 2 kids and 1 car.

I did NOT enjoy it, but we got by, and cars do not have economy of scale. 2nd car costs just as much if not more. But a single car makes you work out your life a bit more in advance, which also means gas savings.


Edit: This was supposed to be a reply to:
"Even if that $2k is in a 2nd car they need. Hmm... "
Expand Edited by crazy Jan. 13, 2012, 09:46:30 AM EST
     Republican "compassion" at its finest - (lincoln) - (36)
         you got 2k cash and want me to buy your food? - (boxley) - (21)
             "... or other assets..." -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 This just means... - (folkert)
             let's see how well you survive - (lincoln) - (18)
                 I have not been unemployed for a while - (boxley) - (17)
                     Yeah, why let people get benefits their taxes paid for. -NT - (Another Scott) - (16)
                         Re: Yeah, why let people get benefits *MY* taxes paid for. - (folkert) - (15)
                             Yeah, only land owners should be able to vote, also too. -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Was that an assumption that those getting any - (crazy) - (13)
                                 foodstamps for a family of 4 who has a single earner - (boxley) - (12)
                                     Is a car an "asset" in this case? - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                         My first thought was houses, not cars - (S1mon_Jester)
                                         is a car a liquid asset? Not really -NT - (boxley) - (9)
                                             lincoln's quote excerpt doesn't say "liquid". - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                                 from your link - (boxley) - (7)
                                                     Hmm... - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                                         never EVER claimed it was about saving taxpayer money - (boxley) - (5)
                                                             Even if that $2k is in a 2nd car they need. Hmm... -NT - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                 nice word placement there bucky -NT - (boxley)
                                                                 Please don't feed the troll - (hnick) - (1)
                                                                     Post more often then! I need someone to argue with here :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                 Nope - (crazy)
         Latest example of the policy... - (Another Scott) - (13)
             Whats wrong with the policy? - (boxley) - (5)
                 It makes no sense. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                     if you think owning a house car and 3k in the bank - (boxley) - (3)
                         Read the story again. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                             again you claim house car and 3k is poverty, hardly -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                 ... -NT - (Another Scott)
             Charlie's take. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 yup love me that obamacare - (boxley) - (2)
                     Re: yup love me that obamacare - (lincoln) - (1)
                         own, not rent from a bank. -NT - (boxley)
             Re: Latest example of the policy... - (pwhysall) - (2)
                 Cold war propeganda. - (Andrew Grygus)
                 We aren't opposed. We're just stupid. - (mmoffitt)

It is toilet- ka ka crap as in the egregiously unfunny and unwatchable SNL.
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