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by pwhysall
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11/16/11 9:47:24 AM
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New Re: Yes but...
Perl's a maintenance horror.

Java, less so.

If I save £20K on hardware but burn through an additional £50K in software maintenance (easily done), I'm £30K down; for all but the most performance-critical applications, no one upstairs is going to care that it's OMG FAST!!, they're just going to extract my gonads for overspending.

My experience is that, for a bespoke system with (say) a five year lifespan with software maintenance (not just bugfixes, but features and stuff) included, hardware is 10% or thereabouts of the total cost.
Post #350,759
by folkert
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11/16/11 10:40:50 AM
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New We aren't experiencing...
Maintenance horrors. Its only because you can't find good Perl coders. Sucks to be you.

We write maintainable Perl. Even the stuff 10 years old is still easily maintainable, a bit archaic, but easy to maintain.

And you are talking different budgets and types of expenditures. Capital Expenditures are typically horribly hard to push through and justify. If you've got wetware already working... its easy to have them fix it.

Though, you don't have good (as in real ones not "think I am") Perl programmers.
     Lisp or Smalltalk or something else? - (crazy) - (28) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:39:17 AM EST
         Dunno. But on the perl stuff... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:45:00 AM EST
             Oh, he schemed - (crazy) - Nov. 15, 2011, 12:03:58 PM EST
         #2 == Squeak - (folkert) - Nov. 15, 2011, 12:48:55 PM EST
         Re: Lisp or Smalltalk or something else? - (malraux) - Nov. 15, 2011, 01:43:31 PM EST
         squeek is interesting but dunno how marketable - (boxley) - (23) - Nov. 15, 2011, 08:21:30 PM EST
             Ruby and financial companies - (malraux) - (22) - Nov. 15, 2011, 09:56:43 PM EST
                 they use the mq for messaging -NT - (boxley) - (21) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:09:03 PM EST
                     You mean Perl MQ? - (folkert) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:57:57 PM EST
                         no - (boxley) - Nov. 15, 2011, 11:08:19 PM EST
                     Yeah, but Ruby? - (malraux) - (18) - Nov. 15, 2011, 11:39:08 PM EST
                         slow vs faster dev time? -NT - (boxley) - (7) - Nov. 16, 2011, 12:33:46 AM EST
                             Does it really matter? - (folkert) - (5) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:18:30 AM EST
                                 Nope - (malraux) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:25:30 AM EST
                                     Agreed - (crazy) - (2) - Nov. 17, 2011, 03:14:07 AM EST
                                         I with I did know lithp. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 17, 2011, 03:25:14 AM EST
                                         I've done LISP - (malraux) - Nov. 17, 2011, 08:55:28 AM EST
                                 Depends on the industry - (drook) - Nov. 16, 2011, 11:26:03 AM EST
                             Not in the financial world - (malraux) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:21:39 AM EST
                         I seem to recall - (S1mon_Jester) - (9) - Nov. 16, 2011, 07:55:14 AM EST
                             Re: I seem to recall - (pwhysall) - (4) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:17:54 AM EST
                                 Yes but... - (folkert) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:30:52 AM EST
                                     Re: Yes but... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:47:24 AM EST
                                         We aren't experiencing... - (folkert) - Nov. 16, 2011, 10:40:50 AM EST
                                     You are confusing two things: - (malraux) - Nov. 16, 2011, 10:59:04 AM EST
                             And they're working on it - (malraux) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:27:51 AM EST
                                 Now that is... - (folkert) - (2) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:31:49 AM EST
                                     Re: Now that is... - (malraux) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2011, 11:00:24 AM EST
                                         Damn straight - (crazy) - Nov. 17, 2011, 03:17:22 AM EST

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