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Post #350,755 by malraux 11/16/11 9:27:51 AM Reply	And they're working on it But again, financial companies are about conservatism and safety. Incidentally, we have some Java code here that runs significantly faster than the exact same code in C++ (parser and expression language execution). Both implementations were written by people I consider to be extremely capable, and both have been tuned within an inch of their lives, but the Java is still faster. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #350,757 by folkert 11/16/11 9:31:49 AM Reply	Now that is... Effing unbelievable. But coming from you Scott, on this kind of stuff, is significant!
Post #350,762 by malraux 11/16/11 11:00:24 AM Reply	Re: Now that is... Java optimizes the code that's running. C optimizes the code you're going to run. The difference can be significant. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #350,811 by crazy 11/17/11 3:17:22 AM Reply	Damn straight It optimizes with knowledge of data flow history and code path transversal. A few passes of data and it can rewrite your core hot spots. CPUs just got fast enough that this type of optimization is possible in real time and people don't get annoyed by the initial "sluggish" moment while the overhead of the optimizer tanks the system.

Lisp or Smalltalk or something else? - (crazy) - (28) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:39:17 AM EST

Dunno. But on the perl stuff... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:45:00 AM EST

Oh, he schemed - (crazy) - Nov. 15, 2011, 12:03:58 PM EST

#2 == Squeak - (folkert) - Nov. 15, 2011, 12:48:55 PM EST

Re: Lisp or Smalltalk or something else? - (malraux) - Nov. 15, 2011, 01:43:31 PM EST

squeek is interesting but dunno how marketable - (boxley) - (23) - Nov. 15, 2011, 08:21:30 PM EST

Ruby and financial companies - (malraux) - (22) - Nov. 15, 2011, 09:56:43 PM EST

they use the mq for messaging -NT - (boxley) - (21) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:09:03 PM EST

You mean Perl MQ? - (folkert) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2011, 10:57:57 PM EST

no - (boxley) - Nov. 15, 2011, 11:08:19 PM EST

Yeah, but Ruby? - (malraux) - (18) - Nov. 15, 2011, 11:39:08 PM EST

slow vs faster dev time? -NT - (boxley) - (7) - Nov. 16, 2011, 12:33:46 AM EST

Does it really matter? - (folkert) - (5) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:18:30 AM EST

Nope - (malraux) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:25:30 AM EST

Agreed - (crazy) - (2) - Nov. 17, 2011, 03:14:07 AM EST

I with I did know lithp. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 17, 2011, 03:25:14 AM EST

I've done LISP - (malraux) - Nov. 17, 2011, 08:55:28 AM EST

Depends on the industry - (drook) - Nov. 16, 2011, 11:26:03 AM EST

Not in the financial world - (malraux) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:21:39 AM EST

I seem to recall - (S1mon_Jester) - (9) - Nov. 16, 2011, 07:55:14 AM EST

Re: I seem to recall - (pwhysall) - (4) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:17:54 AM EST

Yes but... - (folkert) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:30:52 AM EST

Re: Yes but... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:47:24 AM EST

We aren't experiencing... - (folkert) - Nov. 16, 2011, 10:40:50 AM EST

You are confusing two things: - (malraux) - Nov. 16, 2011, 10:59:04 AM EST

And they're working on it - (malraux) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:27:51 AM EST

Now that is... - (folkert) - (2) - Nov. 16, 2011, 09:31:49 AM EST

Re: Now that is... - (malraux) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2011, 11:00:24 AM EST

Damn straight - (crazy) - Nov. 17, 2011, 03:17:22 AM EST

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