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New You're partially right.
For the dumb fucks that still don't understand that this was not merely a puritanical inquisition, grow up.
Didn't Larry Flint do something or other to illustrate that it was a HYPOCRITICAL, puritanical inquisition?

He was a poster child for the me generation of men, with all the foibles, adultery, self centeredness, liars, hypocrits...
That's one way of putting it. Except this has been going on longer than the "me generation".

Let me put it another way, tell me ONE thing that Clinton has done that hasn't been done by a politician before.

No wonder they can't see him for what he is. It would hurt them personally to be that honest about themselves...
I think Tom Tomorrow has put it far better than I ever could.....

[link|http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/1998/10/12tomo.html/|http://www.salon.co...12tomo.html/]
New This is the last one, I promise...
Nixon got caught spying on the Democrats. Well, not true, he didn't even know about it until after the fact. Big crime there. He then villified and tried to discredit his accusers by misusing his power. He finally resigned in disgrace. HE RESIGNED. Not for the break in. He resigned because he got caught trying to cover it up. I was a teenager when this happened. I never trusted Republicans because of this man. Nixon personified all that was wrong with politicians. He was a LIAR. He got caught.

Fast forward. Bill Clinton, a lawyer, gets caught doing a stupid thing. For the time being, I'll put aside the ENTIRE ISSUE OF HER BEING AN UNPAID INTERN NEARLY 30 YEARS YOUNGER AND HIS FINDING HER JOBS USING HIS POSITION AS PRESIDENT THEREBY DISCREDITING THE CONCEPTS OF A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT, ETC..., and just talk about how he was a LIAR. He lied to me and you (A BLOW JOB COUNTS AS SEX, ASK YOUR WIFE!), he lied to a federal judge (or if you prefer, he intentionally mislead)... He even parsed the word "is" in front of a judge, for Christ's sake. HE COVERED IT UP. HE LIED. Now you can see why I have a little trouble understanding how I actually respect Nixon more than Clinton... At least Nixon had the decency for the republic to resign.

I'll compare him to one more stellar American for my last point. Remember Jimmy Swaggart, the preacher caught with a prostitute? Remember his "I have sinned" with all the crying... At least Swaggart paid the women... Did you defend him too?

I honestly believe that this is a problem with America coming to terms with who they really are. Clinton, the first baby boomer President, actually was just like us... It hurts, don't it.
Just a few thoughts,

Screamer

"I'll tip my hat to the new constitution, take a bow for the new revolution, smile and grin at the change all around, pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday..."

P. Townshend

"Nietzsche has an S in it"
Celina Jones
New That was my point.
From my post:
Let me put it another way, tell me ONE thing that Clinton has done that hasn't been done by a politician before.
You say he lied and that was the bad thing. He lied to the entire nation.

I honestly believe that this is a problem with America coming to terms with who they really are. Clinton, the first baby boomer President, actually was just like us... It hurts, don't it.
It doesn't hurt me. I've learned that most people would react just like Clinton did. Which is why the public wasn't as outraged as Starr thought they'd be.

At least Swaggart paid the women... Did you defend him too?
I'm not defending Clinton. I'm pointing out that he didn't do anything NEW! Everything he did has BEEN DONE BEFORE.

...ENTIRE ISSUE OF HER BEING AN UNPAID INTERN NEARLY 30 YEARS YOUNGER...

...(A BLOW JOB COUNTS AS SEX, ASK YOUR WIFE!)...

At least Swaggart paid the women...

Like I've said before. It's about sex. Which is why Flynt was so successful against any Republican's trying to hang Clinton.

They were both adults and they were both willing.

And that is why Clinton got away with it. The vast majority were tittilated by the reports, but it was the stuff of comic routines and barroom jokes. No one >CARED<.
New Re: You're partially right.
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> Let me put it another way, tell me ONE thing that Clinton has done that hasn't been done by a politician before.

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Signing the prosecution papers for a Federal sexual harassment case while getting his hose honked by Monica under the desk.

Acting as the existential definition of "sexual harassment" while weaseling along about how "woman-friendly" his administration was. Oh, and graciously accepting the kudoes of the (supposedly) feminist organizations, every one of which would have killed and buried any non-Democrat found in a similar position.

Regards,
Ric
     An open letter to Dubya. - (mmoffitt) - (41)
         A for effort (straining for the Clinton stuff) - (boxley) - (39)
             Don't forget... - (bepatient) - (38)
                 Nit - (Silverlock) - (4)
                     Difference... - (bepatient) - (3)
                         Remind me - (Silverlock) - (2)
                             Ah, but that's not the problem... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                 Ditto - (Brandioch)
                 Allegations. - (Brandioch) - (32)
                     so, ]:-> drug taking == rape? -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                         Are you admitting both? - (Brandioch) - (1)
                             not without incontrovertable proof :-) - (boxley)
                     No I won't. - (bepatient) - (28)
                         And you don't see a problem, do you? - (Brandioch) - (27)
                             Folkways, Mores, Puritanism - (Ashton) - (8)
                                 Link - (bepatient) - (7)
                                     I get all my facts from "members.tripod.com" - Bill Patient -NT - (Brandioch) - (5)
                                         Check the copyright info at the bottom - (bepatient) - (4)
                                             Check the URL at the top. - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                                 Oh yeah.... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                     Ummm, no. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                         Really? - (bepatient)
                                     Curiouser and curiouser... - (Simon_Jester)
                             Not about Lewinsky - (bepatient) - (17)
                                 Forgot the most important... - (screamer) - (8)
                                     Right on! And, very well said. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                                     You're partially right. - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                         This is the last one, I promise... - (screamer) - (1)
                                             That was my point. - (Brandioch)
                                         Re: You're partially right. - (Ric Locke)
                                     Isn't this the same woman who said ... - (Silverlock)
                                     Problems with your characterization. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         Nah! Maybe it was that way for you. - (a6l6e6x)
                                 Like I said....."alleged". - (Brandioch) - (7)
                                     Alleged on both sides... - (bepatient) - (6)
                                         Like I said......"alleged". - (Brandioch) - (5)
                                             So its ok for you...just noone else. - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                 Awwww, is the poor baby going to cry? - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                                     My my. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                         I can pick up a box of nappies for you. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                             I like the kind with the lotion, k? -NT - (bepatient)
         Well, it could have been a lot worse. - (marlowe)

Nearly sentient.
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