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New No one including the US ...
throws away troops for no reason. To send in ground troops without air attacks would be suicide.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that has spent the last 6 years preparing for a confrontation with Israel. A large part of that preparation has been to bury much of their infrastructure in civilian areas and prepare ambushes and traps in civilian houses.
New This will be my last reply on this
Bill said:
The reason you would fight that war is because it would PROVE that you were interested in minimizing civilian casualties in Lebanon.
Your response was:
No one including the US throws away troops for no reason.
By your own words, minimizing civilian (Lebanese) casualties is "no reason". As I said before: Israel has so far demonstrated that they don't care about civilians, they care about Israelis. There are things civilized people don't do, even in self defense.
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New You are being pedantic
No one throws troops into a fight where they know they will be ambushed and killed if they have a choice.
New Modern war is always a balance
between civilian casualties and the fighting, that is a fact of life. No country is obligated to throw troops into a trap to save civilians who are in fact helping the enemy.
New So, why do a ground war at all?
No country is obligated to throw troops into a trap to save civilians who are in fact helping the enemy.


why not simply bomb (nuke?) the country flat?
New Re: So, why do a ground war at all?
Because no war has ever been won from the air. The air attacks weakened Hezbollah and made the conditions for a ground war against Hezbollah more favorable.
New took 48 hrs to get to beirut in 82, whats wrong here?
would have been better to blow by everything then pickup the trash on the way out. Would have been almost over by now. The tactics are looking pretty wishy washy from this viewpoint.
thanx,
bill
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