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Post #25,559

by drewk

1/24/02 3:58:31 PM

So we haven't even given it to ourselves?

I'll just settle on the simple text that was written. We get that data to our bureau "within the shortest possible period".

So now the problem is that we're not getting the information to ... ourselves? I would think the group we've put together down in Gitmo would satisfy the Geneva terms for "our bureau". And I suspect they are trying pretty hard to gather all that information. So who is it, now, that we're supposed to be getting it to? (Meaning "our bureau".)

We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html|Thomas Friedman]

Post #25,562

by Brandioch

1/24/02 4:06:45 PM

Step #1. We collect the data and give it to our bureau.

Reference the original article.

The author claimed that we didn't HAVE to do this.

OpEd: Human rights and those guys at Gitmo - (marlowe) - (99) - Jan. 21, 2002, 01:44:36 PM EST

looks like a life sentence minimum - (boxley) - Jan. 21, 2002, 03:19:14 PM EST

Parallels with witch hunts. - (Brandioch) - (63) - Jan. 21, 2002, 04:56:36 PM EST

Yeah, let's at least release their names! - (marlowe) - (61) - Jan. 21, 2002, 05:45:29 PM EST

What is it with you people and names? - (Brandioch) - (59) - Jan. 21, 2002, 06:08:22 PM EST

If you sincerely have a problem with this... - (marlowe) - (58) - Jan. 21, 2002, 06:26:05 PM EST

Oh, I don't know. Maybe ask them? - (Brandioch) - (57) - Jan. 21, 2002, 07:32:46 PM EST

Wow. You are beyond parody. - (marlowe) - (56) - Jan. 22, 2002, 12:38:51 PM EST

For the intellectually challenged. - (Brandioch) - (55) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:03:34 PM EST

Meanwhile, on this planet... - (marlowe) - (54) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:13:59 PM EST

Okay. - (Brandioch) - (53) - Jan. 22, 2002, 02:49:14 PM EST

Good gawd you're stupid. - (marlowe) - (3) - Jan. 22, 2002, 03:14:50 PM EST

yer both ijits - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 03:37:45 PM EST

Who's got the names, now? - (marlowe) - Jan. 22, 2002, 03:57:41 PM EST

What was that? - (Brandioch) - Jan. 22, 2002, 06:39:29 PM EST

Methinks you've got another "rights" problem. - (bepatient) - (48) - Jan. 22, 2002, 03:41:46 PM EST

Depends on the law, doesn't it? - (Another Scott) - (45) - Jan. 22, 2002, 04:08:10 PM EST

Its ok for... - (bepatient) - (44) - Jan. 22, 2002, 04:49:33 PM EST

Which is the issue. - (Brandioch) - (43) - Jan. 22, 2002, 06:46:27 PM EST

Also___ we used to have another saying Pre-Ashcroft - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 08:15:59 PM EST

Sly LRPD: IWETHEY's Terrible Horde of Eponymic Yammerers. - (Ashton) - Jan. 22, 2002, 08:26:45 PM EST

Issues - (bepatient) - (40) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:14:41 PM EST

By way of comparision. - (Brandioch) - (38) - Jan. 23, 2002, 12:27:08 PM EST

Try a little research - (drewk) - (37) - Jan. 23, 2002, 12:40:53 PM EST

Thank you, Drew. - (Brandioch) - (36) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:25:56 PM EST

US Law suffices - (boxley) - (5) - Jan. 23, 2002, 01:29:50 PM EST

Allow me to post the text of that. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:27:33 PM EST

what part of OR do you have trouble with :) - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:44:08 PM EST

No problem. - (Brandioch) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:20:51 PM EST

Aaaaargh, me hearties! - (marlowe) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:37:40 PM EST

Yes they did and were treated as POW's -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:44:35 PM EST

[Sigh] - (drewk) - (29) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:14:03 PM EST

Not completely true. - (Brandioch) - (28) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:37:30 PM EST

Ahh, they're POWs - (drewk) - (25) - Jan. 23, 2002, 02:54:21 PM EST

*sigh* - (Brandioch) - (24) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:14:35 PM EST

Read your own post - (drewk) - (23) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:29:26 PM EST

Weasel words don't suit you Drew. - (Silverlock) - (21) - Jan. 23, 2002, 04:02:10 PM EST

But that's the exact problem - (drewk) - (17) - Jan. 23, 2002, 04:13:28 PM EST

NO! - (Brandioch) - (16) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:02:02 PM EST

Fair enough - (drewk) - (15) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:11:33 PM EST

I said it, but I didn't mean it. - (Brandioch) - (14) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:34:11 PM EST

Seems that the folks at Oxford - (bepatient) - (13) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:50:00 PM EST

If I may. - (Brandioch) - (12) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:39:02 PM EST

And to clarify 'cause I know you're going to try to be dumb. - (Brandioch) - (11) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:44:28 PM EST

Good...skip all the parts that make it muddy... - (bepatient) - (10) - Jan. 23, 2002, 10:38:00 PM EST

Re: Good...skip all the parts that make it muddy... - (TTC) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:04:08 AM EST

What was that about binary? - (Brandioch) - (8) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:45:16 AM EST

Care to give me a definition of... - (bepatient) - (7) - Jan. 24, 2002, 01:40:39 PM EST

You have managed to go beyond stupid. - (Brandioch) - (6) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:12:17 PM EST

Wrong...go to the lower post to see just how wrong. -NT - (bepatient) - (5) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:13:45 PM EST

There's one thing to be said about the functionally illitera - (Brandioch) - (4) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:23:00 PM EST

Sorry for underestimating your intelligence. - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:38:34 PM EST

You've achieve the level of an 8 year old. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:52:42 PM EST

Wow... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:05:15 PM EST

Awwww, isn't that cute? - (Brandioch) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:10:23 PM EST

It seems that how all this started... - (bepatient) - (2) - Jan. 23, 2002, 04:33:01 PM EST

You are flat wrong - (Silverlock) - Jan. 24, 2002, 08:09:31 AM EST

Even this much may be overly generous. - (marlowe) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:11:14 PM EST

Re: Read your own post - (TTC) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:12:58 AM EST

Find the terrorists and segregate them? - (marlowe) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:29:26 PM EST

Tonight on NYPD Marlowe. - (Brandioch) - Jan. 23, 2002, 04:58:10 PM EST

Hey BeeP - please FIX your width box.. it proliferates -- -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:59:05 PM EST

Hmm...not that I disagree.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:22:37 PM EST

I know of this practice... - (bepatient) - Jan. 22, 2002, 10:16:51 PM EST

Even *with names*: American experience with HUAC, SISS and - (Ashton) - Jan. 21, 2002, 08:35:07 PM EST

Let us first define and agree on what these folks are - (boxley) - Jan. 22, 2002, 09:22:22 AM EST

Al-Qaeda and Taliban are the same? - (warmachine) - (3) - Jan. 22, 2002, 05:40:04 AM EST

Agreed -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 22, 2002, 09:15:51 AM EST

Well, if we're going to pick nits... - (marlowe) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2002, 12:58:14 PM EST

More like pointing out blinkeredness - (warmachine) - Jan. 23, 2002, 07:28:25 PM EST

So freakin' simple - (mhuber) - (29) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:04:18 PM EST

Amen. -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:08:44 PM EST

As I pointed out to our other distinguished panelist.. - (bepatient) - (27) - Jan. 23, 2002, 10:51:05 PM EST

The delay is to avoid any legal process - (mhuber) - Jan. 23, 2002, 11:58:09 PM EST

I can take that challenge. - (Brandioch) - (25) - Jan. 24, 2002, 05:21:33 AM EST

Thanks for the cite - (drewk) - (24) - Jan. 24, 2002, 09:02:58 AM EST

The names go to the UN and InterPol. - (Brandioch) - (23) - Jan. 24, 2002, 11:57:21 AM EST

Okay, but again *when* do they have to be released - (drewk) - (22) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:29:25 PM EST

Qouting from what I've just quoted. - (Brandioch) - (21) - Jan. 24, 2002, 01:14:35 PM EST

"its bureau" - (bepatient) - (17) - Jan. 24, 2002, 01:56:04 PM EST

Illiterate, functionally. - (Brandioch) - (16) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:42:17 PM EST

Ah...so the Geneva Convention... - (bepatient) - (15) - Jan. 24, 2002, 02:59:27 PM EST

And if we send it by sailing ship, we can wait even longer. - (Brandioch) - (14) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:32:13 PM EST

So we haven't even given it to ourselves? - (drewk) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:58:31 PM EST

Step #1. We collect the data and give it to our bureau. - (Brandioch) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:06:45 PM EST

Nice try... - (bepatient) - (11) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:00:41 PM EST

Again, read the original article. - (Brandioch) - (10) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:10:30 PM EST

Well then... - (bepatient) - (5) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:25:44 PM EST

Simple. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:56:45 PM EST

Fine... - (bepatient) - Jan. 24, 2002, 07:01:14 PM EST

I'm confused: is that the Jesuit or the Economist ploy - (Ashton) - (2) - Jan. 25, 2002, 01:27:02 AM EST

Keep up, k? - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2002, 04:28:36 AM EST

I suppose that we will be finding out how many 'allies' - (Ashton) - Jan. 25, 2002, 07:16:59 AM EST

Oh, I thought we were talking about actual policy - (drewk) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:33:59 PM EST

Ummm, where did I lose you? - (Brandioch) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 05:04:54 PM EST

So that's what happened - (drewk) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 05:21:34 PM EST

Hmmmm, I read the article and I didn't get the same from it. - (Brandioch) - Jan. 24, 2002, 05:31:31 PM EST

Let X = X. - (marlowe) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 03:22:38 PM EST

Length ~ 1.6x10^-35 meters. Time ~ 10^-43 seconds. HTH. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2002, 07:39:59 PM EST

rofl -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 24, 2002, 08:09:00 PM EST

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