Just when I thought I was having a good day!

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Well, that may be true, but knowing what to do if that's the case can certainly help one's confidence a great deal any time one has to give first aid, whether help is close to hand or not.

Also, I've been in the situation many times, though without incident. That situation is actually a fairly common one where I come from, though with the growing spread of wireless communications, much less so than it used to be. Let's say you're on the TransCanadian between Thunder Bay and Kenora, or going up to Timmins; no cell phone, most people up there don't have sat phones. You just have to know what to do. Canoe trips are but one way one can find oneself out of reach of telecom systems in Canada; the land is vast and very thinly populated.

Another Scott: about the satellite phone: where you going to charge it up? My longest trip was just shy of two weeks. There was certainly no fear about going out on long trips like that without comm tech when I was young, and I can't see why one would necessarily need it now. Far more important is the knowledge of how to deal with the situation; when do we try to move them to help? When do we send out a fast canoe (this refers to the people in it, not the canoe itself) to bring help here? How do we maximise the chances of making the trip with the injured party, or how do we do our utmost to keep them alive while waiting for help to arrive? What does one need to take to maximise speed on the two to three day trek out that's required from the deepest parts of the Algonquin, Killarney, or Temagami regions without unduly risking the people making the race?

It's not the same here as it is there. If you have the knowledge on handling things like burns under these conditions, then scalding yourself with hot spaghetti sauce is going to be easy to handle without panic while minimising harm and danger to oneself.

Yes, there are limitations in communications even with satellite phones and even though they're not tremendously expensive, they aren't cheap and are outside the financial resources of the vast majority of people who might be out in the woods or away from cell phone towers. You're right that one should know what to do in emergencies even if there is technology to help. As we've discussed here before, advanced technology breaks while things like pencil and paper and sextants are much less fragile.

But it does help to be prepared. That means knowing how to give yourself first aid, but also taking reasonable preparations to allow communications in an emergency, letting people know where you're going and when, etc., when possible when traveling.

If I were that far from civilization, it would be on a vacation. Part of my planning would be making sure I knew what to do in an emergency and seriously thinking about having a sat phone (with lots of extra batteries and/or a [link|http://www.haimei.com/mobile_phone_accessory/manual_charger.htm|crank powered charger]).

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #231,051 by Nightowl 10/26/05 5:13:49 PM 10/26/05 5:14:57 PM Reply	Just when I thought I was having a good day! I was taking a bowl of Chef Boyardee mini-ravioli out of the microwave in anticipation of a nice lunch. Was wearing the standard red oven mitts to protect owl fingers. Bowl slips out of glove, lands on counter, upright at least, plate covering it slips off, ravioli spatter EVERYWHERE...... On the floor... the counter... the windowsill... the sink... the blinds... the curtains... the cabinets... the microwave...and who knows where else. Also got splashed twice on my bare arm, rinsed off quickly, hope it didn't burn me... very hot. This is so blasted unbelievable.... Using my new techniques to make me less upsettable... trying to anyway. "This isn't an awful event. It's bad, yes, not awful. Most everything will wash clean. Wondering about the lace curtains though." WHAT A FUCKING MESS! Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!" Edited by Nightowl Oct. 26, 2005, 05:14:57 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #231,052 by admin 10/26/05 5:16:01 PM Reply	Er, that's a "nice lunch"? Chef Boyardee... shudder Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #231,053 by pwhysall 10/26/05 5:17:20 PM Reply	Translate for the brit, please. "Chef Boyardee"? Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #231,054 by admin 10/26/05 5:18:38 PM Reply	Pseudo-Italian crapasta in a can Tastes awesome when you're a kid and don't know any better. Most people grow out of it by 12 or so, though. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #231,056 by pwhysall 10/26/05 5:24:19 PM Reply	Gotcha Probably has stupidly high levels of sugar and salt, too. I had a nice lunch yesterday; fresh lettuce and beef tomato, two rashers of lean, dry-cured bacon in a focaccia bun. Drizzle of olive oil & black pepper on the tomato. Fresh coffee, and a nice live yoghurt. Healthy, too. (well, apart from the coffee; the way I make it, it's probably got a better octane rating than what's in the car) Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #231,059 by Nightowl 10/26/05 5:27:25 PM Reply	Re: Gotcha I had a nice lunch yesterday... So did I, I ate leftover Chicken and Dumplings from Cracker Barrel. One of my favorite dishes there. Cole Slaw, Corn Bread, delicious. Wish I had some more of that today. Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!"
Post #231,060 by admin 10/26/05 5:27:46 PM Reply	Leek and potato soup for me. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #231,163 by jb4 10/27/05 11:29:50 AM Reply	Translate for Yanquis please: two rashers of lean, dry-cured ... jb4 shrub●bish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #231,165 by Another Scott 10/27/05 11:33:52 AM Reply	s /rashers/stones HTH.
Post #231,428 by jb4 10/28/05 6:10:36 PM Reply	:-\ufffd That's about as helpful as a toothache! jb4 shrub●bish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #231,437 by Another Scott 10/28/05 7:01:05 PM Reply	I thought it was rather clever, but then I'm easily amused.
Post #231,181 by boxley 10/27/05 12:41:42 PM Reply	two slices of bacon or sidemeat "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #231,280 by pwhysall 10/28/05 1:31:29 AM Reply	Like it says in your dictionaries: [link\|http://www.bartleby.com/61/92/R0049200.html\|http://www.bartleby..../92/R0049200.html] [link\|http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rasher\|http://dictionary.re...m/search?q=rasher] Two slices of bacon. (Back, smoked) Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #231,298 by Meerkat 10/28/05 7:31:42 AM Reply	You don't call them rashers? Wow. Consider me duly educated. Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #231,402 by Ashton 10/28/05 4:19:01 PM Reply	Attrition, I'd think In my yout, I encountered this proper-word from -- a time before Muricans figured out, kicking & screaming, that the breakfast er break-(that 8 hour)-fast of pancakes, waffles, sausage, bacon, 3 eggs, fried potatoes etc. prior to a sedentary day of paper-shuffling: just might have something to do? with all those ailments. (OK, for some.. this is still News.) Still, with the 700K - 1M+ English words extant, I'd expect rasher of bacon to be among the outliers in '05. (And only the esoteric might recall a murder of crows .. or maybe just the wags ;-) Engrish - Use It or lose lots of it, all the way down to Bush-speak or Nintendo-speak, as one's means of grunting approval or dis. Yo Bro
Post #231,429 by jb4 10/28/05 6:11:33 PM 10/28/05 6:12:36 PM Reply	Yeah...here we call them "slices" -- HTH! Hence, the term, "sliced bacon". The term, "rashed bacon" would be a marketing nightmare! jb4 shrub●bish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT Edited by jb4 Oct. 28, 2005, 06:12:36 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #231,435 by imqwerky 10/28/05 6:42:33 PM Reply	Whenever we go to the Original Pancake House for breakfast, it is appropriate to ask for a rasher of bacon. Here is how it goes: "I'd like two eggs over easy, hash browns, wheat toast, a rasher of bacon and a large orange juice, please." The rasher of bacon is four slices of the best bacon you ever put in your mouth. Yum! Q Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly!
Post #231,097 by Andrew Grygus 10/26/05 9:25:20 PM Reply	It is famous as the very definition of . . . . . what Italian pasta should not be like. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #231,057 by Nightowl 10/26/05 5:25:24 PM Reply	Sure... For someone who can't cook, like me. ;) I figured out why it fell though. The very end of the oven glove has been burned so many times (from use by John), that it's slick as shit.... Fun. It spattered my window too... what a mess. Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!"
Post #231,063 by admin 10/26/05 5:37:35 PM Reply	Try this: (new thread) Created as new thread #231062 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=231062\|Try this:] Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #231,179 by bionerd 10/27/05 12:38:59 PM Reply	That's nothing Yesterday for dinner I ate some vegetable soup straight out of the can with a plastic spoon. No dishes. No muss. No fuss. Follow your MOUSE
Post #231,216 by admin 10/27/05 2:38:27 PM Reply	Vegetable soup > Chef Boyardee Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #231,061 by Nightowl 10/26/05 5:37:05 PM 10/26/05 5:38:25 PM Reply	Who invented Venetian Blinds?? They should be SHOT.... or at least made to clean one of their creations from top to bottom after being spattered with Ravioli Flack.... These things are a BITCH to clean! Edit: Oh, and my knuckle is all red but isn't burning, wouldn't it hurt or burn if I was burnt? Forgot to mention it also splattered my hand. Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!" Edited by Nightowl Oct. 26, 2005, 05:38:25 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #231,064 by admin 10/26/05 5:39:08 PM Reply	A small tribe indigenous to the coast of Italy... Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #231,066 by pwhysall 10/26/05 5:43:19 PM Reply	Venetians, funnily enough. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #231,099 by Andrew Grygus 10/26/05 9:29:22 PM Reply	I just take mine down (takes just a moment) . . . . . lay them down in the driveway and hose them off, then sweep with a broom and hose them again. Hang them in the sun 'till dry and put them back up. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #231,117 by static 10/27/05 12:08:52 AM Reply	Burned skin burns, yes. I scaled parts of my fingers the other week from the boiling water service. It felt like it was burning for hours afterwards. Wade. "Insert crowbar. Apply force."
Post #231,120 by Nightowl 10/27/05 12:13:37 AM Reply	Okay Well, mine must not be too bad then. It's a little reddish, was at first a little hot to the touch, and then later a little blistery, but other than that, it's not hurting much. Guess I could put some burn cream on it, if there's any concern? Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!"
Post #231,189 by jake123 10/27/05 1:10:02 PM Reply	Burn treatment Get the burn cool fast, if it's first degree (reddening) or second degree (blisters) get it into cold water post haste. A blister any larget than about a dime should be seen by a doctor. Third degree (charring of the skin) calls for calling an ambulance immediately, cooling the burn with clean water (stop further burning). If there's no immediate medical help available (say you're in the bush) then a cloth placed lightly over the burn to keep the elements off is a good idea... but not bound to the wound in any way. Again, bush lore... a person's own shirt is the best source for the cloth if you're out in the woods and have a serious burn case. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #231,192 by Nightowl 10/27/05 1:25:47 PM Reply	Thanks Interestingly enough, it looks fine this morning and feels fine. No blister in sight... wondering if the red was that I didn't get the tomato sauce off fast enough. Or maybe it just turned it pinkish for a few minutes and the cool water helped. Baffled really, could have swore I saw a blistery effect. Ah well, panic does alot of things to you, I guess. Thank goodness it wasn't something worse, like boiling water. Oh, and the lace curtains came clean, it seems. Whew. Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!"
Post #231,194 by boxley 10/27/05 1:41:16 PM Reply	bush burn, cooled teabag and willow or alder leaves on wound "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #231,278 by pwhysall 10/28/05 1:23:19 AM Reply	IMMEDIATELY and BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE Hold burned area under cold running water for AT LEAST ten minutes. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #231,282 by Nightowl 10/28/05 1:34:28 AM 10/28/05 1:35:13 AM Reply	First thing I did. Must have worked wonders. :) Actually, I think I thought I was more burned than I was, probably because it scared me as well. I think I'm just lucky, could have been hotter, and could have been worse. :) Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!" Edited by Nightowl Oct. 28, 2005, 01:35:13 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #231,285 by Steve Lowe 10/28/05 1:50:12 AM Reply	Right after removing the source of the burn. -- Steve [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu]
Post #231,286 by pwhysall 10/28/05 1:53:04 AM Reply	Well, yes... ...my advice does presuppose that you have removed your limb from the blaze and taken it to the tap. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #231,287 by Nightowl 10/28/05 1:56:55 AM Reply	Well, in my case The water took care of both steps... washed the hot sauce right off my arm with very cold running tap water. :) Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!"
Post #231,327 by boxley 10/28/05 10:52:30 AM Reply	nearest stream might be miles away "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #231,346 by jake123 10/28/05 12:19:15 PM Reply	Yeah, exactly 'Course, being from Europe, Pete probably has no experience in real wilderness. Pete, when I started talking about bush lore, I was talking about a situation where you have an accident (say, someone falls into the fire) and you're a week in on a canoe trip, and the only way out is via six lakes and eight portages. Going very hardcore, one can cover perhaps 40 km in a day (and that is going very hard indeed, dangerously so) and you're 100 km away from the nearest phone. No cell phones up there, guy's going into shock, what do you do? Yes cooling the wound is the first priority, but there is more to deal with than getting the wound cool and calling in the pros; you have to go get the pros (or better) take the problem to them if possible. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #231,356 by Another Scott 10/28/05 12:48:08 PM Reply	These days if you're that far out you prob want a sat phone. You've no doubt heard the stories on the CBC about the guys that are using just their muscles to go from [link\|http://www.vancouvertomoscow.com/\|Vancouver to Moscow]. Cheers, Scott.
Post #231,397 by pwhysall 10/28/05 3:44:37 PM Reply	And how many people is that going to apply to? Very bloody few, is how many. My advice is applicable to 99.99% of the readers of this board, for 99.99% of the time. People who are out in the wilderness can work this shit out for themselves, I wot. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #231,403 by jake123 10/28/05 4:22:28 PM Reply	Re: And how many people is that going to apply to? Well, that may be true, but knowing what to do if that's the case can certainly help one's confidence a great deal any time one has to give first aid, whether help is close to hand or not. Also, I've been in the situation many times, though without incident. That situation is actually a fairly common one where I come from, though with the growing spread of wireless communications, much less so than it used to be. Let's say you're on the TransCanadian between Thunder Bay and Kenora, or going up to Timmins; no cell phone, most people up there don't have sat phones. You just have to know what to do. Canoe trips are but one way one can find oneself out of reach of telecom systems in Canada; the land is vast and very thinly populated. Another Scott: about the satellite phone: where you going to charge it up? My longest trip was just shy of two weeks. There was certainly no fear about going out on long trips like that without comm tech when I was young, and I can't see why one would necessarily need it now. Far more important is the knowledge of how to deal with the situation; when do we try to move them to help? When do we send out a fast canoe (this refers to the people in it, not the canoe itself) to bring help here? How do we maximise the chances of making the trip with the injured party, or how do we do our utmost to keep them alive while waiting for help to arrive? What does one need to take to maximise speed on the two to three day trek out that's required from the deepest parts of the Algonquin, Killarney, or Temagami regions without unduly risking the people making the race? It's not the same here as it is there. If you have the knowledge on handling things like burns under these conditions, then scalding yourself with hot spaghetti sauce is going to be easy to handle without panic while minimising harm and danger to oneself. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #231,408 by Another Scott 10/28/05 5:03:16 PM Reply	Good points. Yes, there are limitations in communications even with satellite phones and even though they're not tremendously expensive, they aren't cheap and are outside the financial resources of the vast majority of people who might be out in the woods or away from cell phone towers. You're right that one should know what to do in emergencies even if there is technology to help. As we've discussed here before, advanced technology breaks while things like pencil and paper and sextants are much less fragile. But it does help to be prepared. That means knowing how to give yourself first aid, but also taking reasonable preparations to allow communications in an emergency, letting people know where you're going and when, etc., when possible when traveling. If I were that far from civilization, it would be on a vacation. Part of my planning would be making sure I knew what to do in an emergency and seriously thinking about having a sat phone (with lots of extra batteries and/or a [link\|http://www.haimei.com/mobile_phone_accessory/manual_charger.htm\|crank powered charger]). Cheers, Scott.
Post #231,405 by drewk 10/28/05 4:48:09 PM Reply	More than you'd think We've got lots of places without cell coverage. We've also got lots of places you can be a day's walk from the nearest electricty, not to mention improved roads. As a comparison, you could put all of Ireland inside Yellowstone National Park, and from lots of that area be more than a day's hike from anything approaching modern conveniences. Remember, this place is big. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #231,439 by jake123 10/28/05 7:22:27 PM Reply	Yeah, and up here is even bigger, and a tenth of the people You're going to be out of cell coverage at some point on any highway in Canada outside of the Windsor-Quebec City corridor. Windsor to Quebec City is further than London to the Scottish border. It takes 24 hours to drive through just Ontario. Etc etc etc. That said, I do understand the point about having a sat phone; I'm just pointing out that sat phones are a luxury outside the reach of most people in Canada's North. Nothing like living in a frozen desert to really limit the size of a population, and therefore an economy. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #231,155 by lister 10/27/05 11:05:56 AM Reply	A real mess is knocking over a bottle of wine SMASH SHIT! Wine all over the small kitchen floor and quickly dashing into obstructed areas to make my life miserable. Plus there were cans of stuff on the floor yet to be put away which the wine rushed over to make friends with. All the while I was in the middle of my dinner (getting a beer at the time) and the Leaf game last Thursday. It was interesting to see the red wine change to green when sprayed with a yellow cleaner. Fortunately it was only a $10 bottle of wine. Replacement was quick the next day as the girlfriend bought the original bottle. lister
Post #231,193 by Nightowl 10/27/05 1:29:53 PM Reply	Sounds like fun -- NOT! The worst mess I think I ever made in my kitchen involved making a chocolate cake. I was mixing it with the electric mixer, and forgot to turn off the beaters before lifting it out... yeah, I know, just plain stupid... Chocolate batter flew everywhere, all over the kitchen, me, etc. Believe it or not, we were still finding it on the ceiling, upper cabinets and other places months later... and yesterday, even though I was supposed to be cleaning up tomato sauce, we managed to find even MORE chocolate spatter... and they looked very different. I can understand about the beaters spinning and shooting the chocolate everywhere, but I'm still surprised how well the ravioli sauce managed to spatter my kitchen when it had no propelling electronic device. That Chef Boyardee sure can spurt quite a distance! Brenda "I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!"
Post #231,210 by jake123 10/27/05 2:22:46 PM Reply	ICLRPD That Chef Boyardee sure can spurt quite a distance! --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #231,214 by jake123 10/27/05 2:29:13 PM Reply	Argh, and ICLRPD (new thread) Created as new thread #231213 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=231213\|Argh, and ICLRPD] --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #231,244 by Ashton 10/27/05 8:57:22 PM Reply	Try this - (as told to) Guy in Yuppie Villa front room, white carpet, sofa, accessories.. the whole hog including the postage, from (Bau) Haus Wunderbar - Is fixing up the fireplace grate, respraying with black hi-temp paint, etc. Phone rings; intriguing; sets paint can down ___ goes into other room Blah blah blah ... {time} BLAM!!! Rushes back. Yeah, he'd set it down, alright. On the (hot circulating water-type) heater top. No description necessary; Imagine the .. aftermath .. the dope-slaps unto unconsciousness

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