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New Re: Some find the suspension of the Republic interesting
The fact that the USA is currently being run by a de-facto leader whose cronies managed to prevent a clean election is not something to "get over".
Actually, it probably is. Whatever tags, slogans, invective you use, he's still in. The process, fucked as it is, will not be reversed at this point. We, as a country are not going to go to all the other countries we have dealings with, and say "Ah... we just learned how to count, so you've been talking to the wrong dufus... you need to pay off the other dufus now...".
What we can do, is try not to allow this to happen again. I agree with your points about the behavior or the judiciary and the current government. I agree that they need fixing. Badly. Arbitrarily replacing the current dufus is not going to do it. We've lived with inferior presidents before, and will again. We need to get back to a system that the people can trust.
If it can be shown that Bush was involved in something illegal to get elected, than by all means, throw the bum out. It's been done before. If he hasn't done anything but play the game as it is played today, then get over the dufus and fix the game.

just .02
Hugh
New The danger is ...
with the way the recount was reported by the corporate owned McNews (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and most print media). My problem is that the Recount didn't show what the medja said it showed. They didn't like the outcome, so they changed the question. The reporting might lead some, perhaps many, to conclude that "the system did work after all". It clearly didn't, and that's not something we should forget. If we do, then we deserve what we get.
New Understood and agreed...
particularly about deserving what we get if we forget about this.
All of it should be remembered and considered while figuring out how to come up with a trustworthy means of voting. Chads, gerrymandering, local law enforcement, federal judiciary, the lot. The end result should be a better means of voting. I'm all for it. I'm all for discussion of the same. I may throw up if there is more crap about going over old ballots again to redeem the last election. That is over.

-H
New Interesting...

... then get over the dufus and fix the game.


Would you PLEASE tell others that. Damn, Clinton is OUT of office and idiots are STILL going on about him.

New The operative word
is "idiots" :)

-H

     Is it Okay to talk about the Recount yet? - (mmoffitt) - (46)
         No. It's over. - (hnick) - (39)
             And you should especially avoid that type of analysis - (Ric Locke) - (2)
                 Thought I said that... -msg -NT - (hnick) - (1)
                     You did. Just weary of circumlocutions. -NT - (Ric Locke)
             Some find the suspension of the Republic interesting - (mhuber) - (34)
                 Re: Some find the suspension of the Republic interesting - (hnick) - (4)
                     The danger is ... - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         Understood and agreed... - (hnick)
                     Interesting... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                         The operative word - (hnick)
                 Republic not suspended. Film at 11. - (Ric Locke) - (28)
                     And there you have it. - (bepatient) - (14)
                         Correct != right? In a democracy? - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                             In a democracy... - (bepatient) - (12)
                                 Ack. - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                     However... - (bepatient) - (10)
                                         I see that "however" and raise you a "but" - (Silverlock) - (9)
                                             Can I get an Amen on that one!! -NT - (bepatient)
                                             excuse me?? - (Simon_Jester) - (5)
                                                 You're excused - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                                     Thought I understood it... - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                                         No backup - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                             the historically corrupt phrase - (boxley)
                                                     A coupla other data points: - (jb4)
                                             Well I guess florida has been a state longer - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 You missed a big one in the South. - (mmoffitt)
                     Out of curiousity... - (Simon_Jester) - (5)
                         Check California, Illinois, and New York - (Ric Locke) - (4)
                             No offense...but you're raising strawmen left and right. - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                 No strawmen here -- willow twigs exclusively - (Ric Locke) - (2)
                                     Cute twig - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                         And it was a dahling sprig, too - (Ric Locke)
                     You presume too much - (mhuber) - (6)
                         Presume? I'm watching things happen. - (Ric Locke) - (5)
                             You might want to work on the OCR system.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                 Nothing is infallible - (Ric Locke)
                             One obscure recount method: - (mhuber) - (2)
                                 beg to slightly differ - (boxley)
                                 Amen. -NT - (mmoffitt)
             Got an idea for a new forum: Undead Horses. - (marlowe)
         There should be a new law on this - (nking) - (5)
             What a free-for-all that would be - (Ric Locke)
             current law is just fine - (boxley) - (3)
                 The courts should have stayed out - (nking)
                 actually, I'm not sure that is possible... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                     one more time - (boxley)

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