He's been on the ball....

Post #222,922 by Simon_Jester 9/5/05 2:34:06 PM Reply	He's been on the ball.... he wanted New Orleans evacuated before anyone else. he wanted support for the levees before they match lake levels (and might have save lives) he's already declared New Orlean unlivable and wants everyone out. That said, he's been a little foolish too. He's make comments that imply that because the people most affected were blacks that there was a racist goal regarding the lack of help (no racist goals, merely imcompentence). Furthermore, he's staying in the city....which kind of negates the whole "we need to get everyone out" approach. He's one very positive note is that I believe he stands by his words (I may not agree with them) and they seem to be based on facts. (Unlike the White House which is attempting to shift blame by declaring that the states didn't declare an State of Emergency.)
Post #222,925 by jake123 9/5/05 2:42:19 PM Reply	Let's not forget he's black, and probably understands racism in the public service more than most, even though he himself is mayor. There was a study done by and on the local police force up here (ie- Kingston Police Department) about stops; the first ever attempt to gather race statistics by police in this country evah. To start with, I'm going to give kudos to the local Chief of Police here (Bill Closs) for having the guts to stand up to both the police union and to various gov't departments that didn't want to have this study happen, and the result was pretty predictable to anyone who has eyes, ears, and any curiousity about the community: blacks were twice as likely to be stopped, and natives six times as likely to be stopped. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #222,931 by SpiceWare 9/5/05 2:58:22 PM Reply	I recall a similiar study in New Jersey and efforts to squelch it because it found the reason blacks where pulled over more was because they were speeding more. [link\|http://www.city-journal.org/html/12_2_the_racial_profiling.html\|The Racial Profiling Myth Debunked] According to the study commissioned by the New Jersey attorney general and leaked first to the New York Times and then to the Web, blacks make up 16 percent of the drivers on the turnpike, and 25 percent of the speeders in the 65-mile-per-hour zones, where profiling complaints are most common. (The study counted only those going more than 15 miles per hour over the speed limit as speeders.) Black drivers speed twice as much as white drivers, and speed at reckless levels even more. Blacks are actually stopped less than their speeding behavior would predict\ufffdthey are 23 percent of those stopped. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #222,941 by bepatient 9/5/05 3:47:00 PM Reply	The more this gets covered... ...the more its starting to look like the Gov may have been overmatched by this situation. Regardless...rules will have to change. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

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